Hi,
I am currently researching german rail mounted artillery used on the eastern front. I have Ian V Hogg's excellent German Artillery of World War 2, which gives detailed information about the rail guns but no information about where they were used. I know that during the siege of leningrad that at least one rail gun was present.
Any information that you can provide me which rail guns were operating on the eastern front and what units operated them would be most welcome!
German Rail Guns - Eastern Front
Moderator: Tom Houlihan
Hi,
Here is some information I can find...
In May 1940, there were 9 railroad artillery regiments, numbered: 676, 679, 680, 681, 702, 720, 766, 780 and 781. The batteries were divided as follows:
Number of Batteris | Type of Gun | Battery Numbers | Number of guns in all batteries | Available as of 1 June 1941
1 | 15 cm | 655 | 2 guns/batt.= 2 | 1 battery
2 | 17 cm | 717, 718 | 3 guns/batt.= 6 | 2 batteries
1 | 21 cm | 701 | 1 gun/batt.= 1 | 1 battery
4 | 24 cm | 664, 674, 721, 722 | 2+2+2+1=7 | 3 batteries
8 | 28 cm | 688-690, 694-696, 710, 712 | 2+1 reserve = 17 | 13 batteries (some only had one gun)
676. Rgt: Heerestruppe Westen 15. AOK (Chanelcoast)
679. Rgt: Heerestruppe; 1942 18. & 11. AOK (Leningrad), 1944/45 9. AOK Weichsel, Oder
680. Rgt: Heerestruppe; 1942 18. AOK, 1944/45 16. AOK (Kurland)
681. Rgt: Heerestruppe Westen 7. AOK
702. Rgt: Heerestruppe Westen 15. AOK
720. Rgt: Heerestruppe Westen 7. AOK
766. Rgt: Heerestruppe; 1942 11. AOK (Krim); 1944 5. Pz. AOK (Ardennes)
780. Rgt: Heerestruppe Westen, 7. AOK
781. Rgt: Heerestruppe; 1942 11. AOK (Krim (Crimea)), 194/45 8. OAK (Slovakia)
Kind regards,
Johan Vos
Here is some information I can find...
In May 1940, there were 9 railroad artillery regiments, numbered: 676, 679, 680, 681, 702, 720, 766, 780 and 781. The batteries were divided as follows:
Number of Batteris | Type of Gun | Battery Numbers | Number of guns in all batteries | Available as of 1 June 1941
1 | 15 cm | 655 | 2 guns/batt.= 2 | 1 battery
2 | 17 cm | 717, 718 | 3 guns/batt.= 6 | 2 batteries
1 | 21 cm | 701 | 1 gun/batt.= 1 | 1 battery
4 | 24 cm | 664, 674, 721, 722 | 2+2+2+1=7 | 3 batteries
8 | 28 cm | 688-690, 694-696, 710, 712 | 2+1 reserve = 17 | 13 batteries (some only had one gun)
676. Rgt: Heerestruppe Westen 15. AOK (Chanelcoast)
679. Rgt: Heerestruppe; 1942 18. & 11. AOK (Leningrad), 1944/45 9. AOK Weichsel, Oder
680. Rgt: Heerestruppe; 1942 18. AOK, 1944/45 16. AOK (Kurland)
681. Rgt: Heerestruppe Westen 7. AOK
702. Rgt: Heerestruppe Westen 15. AOK
720. Rgt: Heerestruppe Westen 7. AOK
766. Rgt: Heerestruppe; 1942 11. AOK (Krim); 1944 5. Pz. AOK (Ardennes)
780. Rgt: Heerestruppe Westen, 7. AOK
781. Rgt: Heerestruppe; 1942 11. AOK (Krim (Crimea)), 194/45 8. OAK (Slovakia)
Kind regards,
Johan Vos
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Railway guns
Hope the following helps.
Marine-Eisb.Art.Battr.Gneisenau
This was the navies ONLY railway guns.
1944
In France used four 15cm SK L/40(E), these went to Eisb.Battr.655.
Eisb.Art.Lehr-u.Ers.Abt.100
Formed ???. Home station was WK.II.
???Ch.H.Rüst.u.BdE
116th Railway Flak Btl
September 1939
[H.Gr.Nord, 3.Armee]
117th Railway Flak Btl
September 1939
[H.Gr.Nord, 3.Armee]
221 Railway Flak Btl
May 1942
[O.K.W. reserves]
224 Railway Flak Btl
May 1942
[O.K.W. reserves]
321st Railway Flak Btl
May 1942
[O.K.W. reserves]
H.Eisb.Battr.459
Formed after May 1940.
December 1941
To eastern front.
H.Eisb.Battr.532
H.Eisb.Battr.592
614th Railway Art Btl
Formed after May 1940.
Stabsbttr.f.Eisb.Art.620
???
Heerestruppen.
Eisb.Battr.640
Formed after May 1940.
???
Heerestruppen.
Eisb.Art.Rgt.646
???
Stab was Heerestruppen.
646th Railway Art Btl
Formed after May 1940.
Eisb.Battr.649
???
Art.Abt.720
Eisb.Battr.655
Formed pre May 1940.
May 1940
Used 2 15cm K(E)
June 1941 [1st]
Used 2 15cm K(E)
???
Used 4 15cm K(E), these had previously been used by Marine-Battr.Gneisenau.
???
28cm Haub.
s.Art.Abt.(Eisb.) 660
???
Heerestruppen.
Eisb.Battr.664
Formed pre May 1940.
May 1940
2 24cm Theodor K(E) or 24cm Th.Br. K(E) [? See 674 ?].
June 1941 [1st]
2 24cm Theodor K(E) or 24cm Th.Br. K(E) [? See 674 ?].
Eisb.Battr.665
???
Heerestruppen.
s.H.Eisb.Battr.672
Formed January 1942 specially for the 80cm K(E) „Dora”.
5th to 17th June 1942
Fired 48 rounds at Sevastopol.
May not have been used again.
April 1945
”Dora” destroyed, along with a second incomplete gun.
Eisb.Battr.673
???
Heerestruppen.
Eisb.Battr.674
Formed pre May 1940.
May 1940
2 24cm Theodor K(E) or 24cm Th.Br. K(E) [? See 664 ?].
June 1941 [1st]
2 24cm Theodor K(E) or 24cm Th.Br. K(E) [? See 664 ?].
???
34cm M12(f) railway guns.
December 1944 [16th]
[Eisb.Art.Abt.z.b.V.725]
1 24cm Th.Br. K(E) [20km range], 1 24cm Theodor K(E) [28km range], 1 27.4cm K(E) 592(f) [30km range]]
Eisb.Art.Rgt.676
Formed pre May 1940.
???
Stab Heerestruppen.
May 1940
[6.Armee]
July 1941
To eastern front as reinforcement.
May 1942
[O.K.W. reserves]
Eisb.Art.Rgt.679
Formed pre May 1940.
Eisb.Art.Rgt.680
Formed pre May 1940.
May 1942
[O.K.W. reserves]
Eisb.Art.Abt.Stab.z.b.V.680
Eisb.Art.Rgt.z.b.V.681
Formed pre May 1940.
???
Stab Heerestruppen.
May 1940
[18.Armee]
July 1941
To eastern front as reinforcement.
May 1942
[O.K.W. reserves]
Eisb.Battr.685
???
Heerestruppen.
Eisb.Battr.(38cm Siegfr.K.) 686
Formed after May 1940.
???
Used three 40cm Haub(E) 752(f).
[Only eight were captured, Eisb.Battr.693 used three, two were used as spares]
February 1942
To eastern front as reinforcement.
November 1944 [23rd]
[Eisb.Battr.(38cm Siegfr.K.) 686]
38cm Siegfr.K.(E)
December 1944 [16th]
[Eisb.Battr.(38cm Siegfr.K.) 686]
38cm Siegfr.K.(E)
Eisb.Battr.687
???
Heerestruppen.
Eisb.Battr.688
Formed pre May 1940.
May 1940
Used 2 28cm lange Bruno K(E) [Only unit to use].
June 1941 [1st]
Used 1 or 2 28cm lange Bruno K(E) [Only unit to use].
???
Used 3 28cm lange Bruno K(E) [Only unit to use].
December 1944 [16th]
[Eisb.Art.Abt.z.b.V.725]
1 28cm K5(E) [60km range]]
Eisb.Battr.689
Formed pre May 1940.
May 1940
Used 2 28cm s.Bruno K(E) [Only unit to use].
June 1941 [1st]
Used 1 or 2 28cm s.Bruno K(E).
1944
On Channel Coast.
Used 28cm s.Bruno K(E).
Eisb.Battr.690
Formed pre May 1940.
May 1940
Used 2 28cm kürze Bruno K(E).[Also used by Eisb.Battr.694, Eisb.Battr.695 and Eisb.Battr.696]
June 1941 [1st]
Used 1 or 2 28cm kürze Bruno K(E).
June 1941 [22nd]
[H.Gr.Nord, 18.Armee reserve]
???
At Calais had 2 28cm K5(E) and at Wimereux had 2 28cm K12(E).
Eisb.Battr.691
???
Heerestruppen.
Eisb.Battr.692
???
Heerestruppen.
Eisb.Battr.693
Formed after May 1940.
???
Used three 40cm Haub(E) 752(f) [Only eight were captured, Eisb.Battr.686 used three, two were used as spares]
February 1942
To eastern front as reinforcement.
Eisb.Battr.694
Formed pre May 1940.
May 1940
Used 2 28cm kürze Bruno K(E) [Also used by Eisb.Battr.690, Eisb.Battr.695 and Eisb.Battr.696]
June 1941 [1st]
Used 1 or 2 28cm kürze Bruno K(E).
Eisb.Battr.695
Formed pre May 1940.
May 1940
Used 2 28cm kürze Bruno K(E) [Also used by Eisb.Battr.690, Eisb.Battr.695 and Eisb.Battr.696]
June 1941 [1st]
Used 1 or 2 28cm kürze Bruno K(E).
???
Used three 37cm Haub(E) 711(f) [also used by Eisb.Battr.711]
Eisb.Battr.696
Formed pre May 1940.
May 1940
Used 2 28cm kürze Bruno K(E) [Also used by Eisb.Battr.690, Eisb.Battr.694 and Eisb.Battr.695]
June 1941 [1st]
Used 1 or 2 28cm kürze Bruno K(E).
June 1941 [22nd]
[H.Gr.Nord, 18.Armee, I.Armeekorps]
Eisb.Battr.698
???
Heerestruppen.
Eisb.Battr.701
Formed pre May 1940.
May 1940
Used 1 21cm K12(E) [Only unit to use 21cm K12(E). Two were made, but only one was used at a time]
June 1941 [1st]
Used 1 21cm K12(E).
Eisb.Art.Rgt.Stab.z.b.V.702
Formed circa October 1939.
May 1940
[16.Armee]
June 1941
[4.Armee]
May 1942
[O.K.W. reserves]
Eisb.Art.Abt.Stab.z.b.V.704
???
Heerestruppen.
Eisb.Battr.704
???
Heerestruppen.
Eisb.Battr.710
Formed pre May 1940.
May 1940
Used 2 28cm railway guns.
June 1941 [1st]
Used 1 or 2 28cm railway guns.
June 1941 [22nd]
[H.Gr.Mitte, 4.Armee, VII.Armeekorps]
???
Near Calais. Known as Battr.Nieulay.
Used 2 28cm K5 and 2 10cm 30(t) railway guns.
Eisb.Battr.711
Formed after May 1940.
???
Used two 37cm Haub(E) 711(f) [also used by Eisb.Battr.695]
Eisb.Battr.712
Formed pre May 1940.
May 1940
Used 2 28cm K5(E).
June 1941 [1st]
Used 1 or 2 28cm K5(E).
October 1943 [8th]
Near Lenningrad.
Used 28cm K5(E).
Eisb.Battr.713
Formed after May 1940.
October 1943 [8th]
Near Lenningrad.
Used 28cm K5(E).
Eisb.Battr.715
???
Heerestruppen.
Eisb.Battr.717
Formed pre May 1940.
May 1940
3 17cm K(E) [only used by Eisb.Battr.717 and Eisb.Battr.718]
June 1941 [1st]
3 17cm K(E).
1942
Either this battery or Eisb.Battr.718 was in France at this date.
Eisb.Battr.718
Formed pre May 1940.
May 1940
3 17cm K(E) [only used by Eisb.Battr.717 and Eisb.Battr.718]
June 1941 [1st]
3 17cm K(E).
1942
Either this battery or Eisb.Battr.717 was in France at this date.
Eisb.Battr.719
???
Heerestruppen.
Eisb.Art.Rgt.z.b.V.720
Formed pre May 1940.
???
Stab was Heerestruppen.
Eisb.Battr.(Bruno S) 721
Formed pre May 1940.
May 1940
1 or 2 24cm railway guns.
? May 1940 to 1st June 1941 ?
Re-equipped with captured 24cm railway guns.
June 1941 [1st]
28cm(E).
November 1944 [23rd]
Bruno S (E).
December 1944 [16th]
[Eisb.Battr.(Bruno S) 721]
Bruno S (E).
Eisb.Battr.722
Formed pre May 1940.
May 1940
1 or 2 24cm Theodor K(E) or 24cm Th.Br. K(E) in this Battr.
June 1941 [1st]
24cm railway guns. [??? 28cm railway guns ???]
Eisb.Art.Abt.z.b.V.725
Formed after May 1940.
June 1941 [22nd]
[H.Gr.Süd, 17.Armee, IV.Armeekorps]
December 1944 [16th]
Comprised Eisb.Battr.674, Eisb.Battr.688 and Eisb.Battr.(K5 Glatt) 749.
Eisb.Battr.725
???
Heerestruppen.
June 1941 [22nd]
2./Eisb.Battr.725 in H.Gr.Süd, 17.Armee, IV.Armeekorps. [K5]
Eisb.Art.Abt.z.b.V.726
???
Stab was Heerestruppen.
Eisb.Battr.726
???
Heerestruppen.
Eisb.Battr.729
???
Heerestruppen.
Eisb.Battr.744
???
Heerestruppen.
Eisb.Battr.(K5 Glatt) 749
December 1944 [16th]
[Eisb.Art.Abt.z.b.V.725]
Two 28cm K5 glatt(E) [ ? 125km range ?]]
Eisb.Battr.752
???
Heerestruppen.
Eisb.Battr.(Bruno S) 755
November 1944 [23rd]
Called 1./Eisb.Battr.(Bruno S) 755.
28cm(E).
December 1944 [16th]
Bruno S (E).
Eisb.Battr.765
Eisb.Art.Rgt.Stab.766
Formed pre May 1940.
???
Heerestruppen.
Eisb.Art.Rgt.Stab.z.b.V.780
Formed circa October 1939.
May 1940
[6.Armee]
July 1941
To eastern front as reinforcement.
May 1942
[O.K.W. reserves]
Eisb.Battr.780
Formed pre May 1940.
Eisb.Art.Rgt.Stab.z.b.V.781
Formed pre May 1940.
Eisb.Art.Rgt.Stab.z.b.V.833
June 1941 [22nd]
[H.Gr.Süd, 17.Armee, IV.Armeekorps]
Eisb.Art.Abt.1227
???
Heerestruppen.
Sorry all I have.
David
Marine-Eisb.Art.Battr.Gneisenau
This was the navies ONLY railway guns.
1944
In France used four 15cm SK L/40(E), these went to Eisb.Battr.655.
Eisb.Art.Lehr-u.Ers.Abt.100
Formed ???. Home station was WK.II.
???Ch.H.Rüst.u.BdE
116th Railway Flak Btl
September 1939
[H.Gr.Nord, 3.Armee]
117th Railway Flak Btl
September 1939
[H.Gr.Nord, 3.Armee]
221 Railway Flak Btl
May 1942
[O.K.W. reserves]
224 Railway Flak Btl
May 1942
[O.K.W. reserves]
321st Railway Flak Btl
May 1942
[O.K.W. reserves]
H.Eisb.Battr.459
Formed after May 1940.
December 1941
To eastern front.
H.Eisb.Battr.532
H.Eisb.Battr.592
614th Railway Art Btl
Formed after May 1940.
Stabsbttr.f.Eisb.Art.620
???
Heerestruppen.
Eisb.Battr.640
Formed after May 1940.
???
Heerestruppen.
Eisb.Art.Rgt.646
???
Stab was Heerestruppen.
646th Railway Art Btl
Formed after May 1940.
Eisb.Battr.649
???
Art.Abt.720
Eisb.Battr.655
Formed pre May 1940.
May 1940
Used 2 15cm K(E)
June 1941 [1st]
Used 2 15cm K(E)
???
Used 4 15cm K(E), these had previously been used by Marine-Battr.Gneisenau.
???
28cm Haub.
s.Art.Abt.(Eisb.) 660
???
Heerestruppen.
Eisb.Battr.664
Formed pre May 1940.
May 1940
2 24cm Theodor K(E) or 24cm Th.Br. K(E) [? See 674 ?].
June 1941 [1st]
2 24cm Theodor K(E) or 24cm Th.Br. K(E) [? See 674 ?].
Eisb.Battr.665
???
Heerestruppen.
s.H.Eisb.Battr.672
Formed January 1942 specially for the 80cm K(E) „Dora”.
5th to 17th June 1942
Fired 48 rounds at Sevastopol.
May not have been used again.
April 1945
”Dora” destroyed, along with a second incomplete gun.
Eisb.Battr.673
???
Heerestruppen.
Eisb.Battr.674
Formed pre May 1940.
May 1940
2 24cm Theodor K(E) or 24cm Th.Br. K(E) [? See 664 ?].
June 1941 [1st]
2 24cm Theodor K(E) or 24cm Th.Br. K(E) [? See 664 ?].
???
34cm M12(f) railway guns.
December 1944 [16th]
[Eisb.Art.Abt.z.b.V.725]
1 24cm Th.Br. K(E) [20km range], 1 24cm Theodor K(E) [28km range], 1 27.4cm K(E) 592(f) [30km range]]
Eisb.Art.Rgt.676
Formed pre May 1940.
???
Stab Heerestruppen.
May 1940
[6.Armee]
July 1941
To eastern front as reinforcement.
May 1942
[O.K.W. reserves]
Eisb.Art.Rgt.679
Formed pre May 1940.
Eisb.Art.Rgt.680
Formed pre May 1940.
May 1942
[O.K.W. reserves]
Eisb.Art.Abt.Stab.z.b.V.680
Eisb.Art.Rgt.z.b.V.681
Formed pre May 1940.
???
Stab Heerestruppen.
May 1940
[18.Armee]
July 1941
To eastern front as reinforcement.
May 1942
[O.K.W. reserves]
Eisb.Battr.685
???
Heerestruppen.
Eisb.Battr.(38cm Siegfr.K.) 686
Formed after May 1940.
???
Used three 40cm Haub(E) 752(f).
[Only eight were captured, Eisb.Battr.693 used three, two were used as spares]
February 1942
To eastern front as reinforcement.
November 1944 [23rd]
[Eisb.Battr.(38cm Siegfr.K.) 686]
38cm Siegfr.K.(E)
December 1944 [16th]
[Eisb.Battr.(38cm Siegfr.K.) 686]
38cm Siegfr.K.(E)
Eisb.Battr.687
???
Heerestruppen.
Eisb.Battr.688
Formed pre May 1940.
May 1940
Used 2 28cm lange Bruno K(E) [Only unit to use].
June 1941 [1st]
Used 1 or 2 28cm lange Bruno K(E) [Only unit to use].
???
Used 3 28cm lange Bruno K(E) [Only unit to use].
December 1944 [16th]
[Eisb.Art.Abt.z.b.V.725]
1 28cm K5(E) [60km range]]
Eisb.Battr.689
Formed pre May 1940.
May 1940
Used 2 28cm s.Bruno K(E) [Only unit to use].
June 1941 [1st]
Used 1 or 2 28cm s.Bruno K(E).
1944
On Channel Coast.
Used 28cm s.Bruno K(E).
Eisb.Battr.690
Formed pre May 1940.
May 1940
Used 2 28cm kürze Bruno K(E).[Also used by Eisb.Battr.694, Eisb.Battr.695 and Eisb.Battr.696]
June 1941 [1st]
Used 1 or 2 28cm kürze Bruno K(E).
June 1941 [22nd]
[H.Gr.Nord, 18.Armee reserve]
???
At Calais had 2 28cm K5(E) and at Wimereux had 2 28cm K12(E).
Eisb.Battr.691
???
Heerestruppen.
Eisb.Battr.692
???
Heerestruppen.
Eisb.Battr.693
Formed after May 1940.
???
Used three 40cm Haub(E) 752(f) [Only eight were captured, Eisb.Battr.686 used three, two were used as spares]
February 1942
To eastern front as reinforcement.
Eisb.Battr.694
Formed pre May 1940.
May 1940
Used 2 28cm kürze Bruno K(E) [Also used by Eisb.Battr.690, Eisb.Battr.695 and Eisb.Battr.696]
June 1941 [1st]
Used 1 or 2 28cm kürze Bruno K(E).
Eisb.Battr.695
Formed pre May 1940.
May 1940
Used 2 28cm kürze Bruno K(E) [Also used by Eisb.Battr.690, Eisb.Battr.695 and Eisb.Battr.696]
June 1941 [1st]
Used 1 or 2 28cm kürze Bruno K(E).
???
Used three 37cm Haub(E) 711(f) [also used by Eisb.Battr.711]
Eisb.Battr.696
Formed pre May 1940.
May 1940
Used 2 28cm kürze Bruno K(E) [Also used by Eisb.Battr.690, Eisb.Battr.694 and Eisb.Battr.695]
June 1941 [1st]
Used 1 or 2 28cm kürze Bruno K(E).
June 1941 [22nd]
[H.Gr.Nord, 18.Armee, I.Armeekorps]
Eisb.Battr.698
???
Heerestruppen.
Eisb.Battr.701
Formed pre May 1940.
May 1940
Used 1 21cm K12(E) [Only unit to use 21cm K12(E). Two were made, but only one was used at a time]
June 1941 [1st]
Used 1 21cm K12(E).
Eisb.Art.Rgt.Stab.z.b.V.702
Formed circa October 1939.
May 1940
[16.Armee]
June 1941
[4.Armee]
May 1942
[O.K.W. reserves]
Eisb.Art.Abt.Stab.z.b.V.704
???
Heerestruppen.
Eisb.Battr.704
???
Heerestruppen.
Eisb.Battr.710
Formed pre May 1940.
May 1940
Used 2 28cm railway guns.
June 1941 [1st]
Used 1 or 2 28cm railway guns.
June 1941 [22nd]
[H.Gr.Mitte, 4.Armee, VII.Armeekorps]
???
Near Calais. Known as Battr.Nieulay.
Used 2 28cm K5 and 2 10cm 30(t) railway guns.
Eisb.Battr.711
Formed after May 1940.
???
Used two 37cm Haub(E) 711(f) [also used by Eisb.Battr.695]
Eisb.Battr.712
Formed pre May 1940.
May 1940
Used 2 28cm K5(E).
June 1941 [1st]
Used 1 or 2 28cm K5(E).
October 1943 [8th]
Near Lenningrad.
Used 28cm K5(E).
Eisb.Battr.713
Formed after May 1940.
October 1943 [8th]
Near Lenningrad.
Used 28cm K5(E).
Eisb.Battr.715
???
Heerestruppen.
Eisb.Battr.717
Formed pre May 1940.
May 1940
3 17cm K(E) [only used by Eisb.Battr.717 and Eisb.Battr.718]
June 1941 [1st]
3 17cm K(E).
1942
Either this battery or Eisb.Battr.718 was in France at this date.
Eisb.Battr.718
Formed pre May 1940.
May 1940
3 17cm K(E) [only used by Eisb.Battr.717 and Eisb.Battr.718]
June 1941 [1st]
3 17cm K(E).
1942
Either this battery or Eisb.Battr.717 was in France at this date.
Eisb.Battr.719
???
Heerestruppen.
Eisb.Art.Rgt.z.b.V.720
Formed pre May 1940.
???
Stab was Heerestruppen.
Eisb.Battr.(Bruno S) 721
Formed pre May 1940.
May 1940
1 or 2 24cm railway guns.
? May 1940 to 1st June 1941 ?
Re-equipped with captured 24cm railway guns.
June 1941 [1st]
28cm(E).
November 1944 [23rd]
Bruno S (E).
December 1944 [16th]
[Eisb.Battr.(Bruno S) 721]
Bruno S (E).
Eisb.Battr.722
Formed pre May 1940.
May 1940
1 or 2 24cm Theodor K(E) or 24cm Th.Br. K(E) in this Battr.
June 1941 [1st]
24cm railway guns. [??? 28cm railway guns ???]
Eisb.Art.Abt.z.b.V.725
Formed after May 1940.
June 1941 [22nd]
[H.Gr.Süd, 17.Armee, IV.Armeekorps]
December 1944 [16th]
Comprised Eisb.Battr.674, Eisb.Battr.688 and Eisb.Battr.(K5 Glatt) 749.
Eisb.Battr.725
???
Heerestruppen.
June 1941 [22nd]
2./Eisb.Battr.725 in H.Gr.Süd, 17.Armee, IV.Armeekorps. [K5]
Eisb.Art.Abt.z.b.V.726
???
Stab was Heerestruppen.
Eisb.Battr.726
???
Heerestruppen.
Eisb.Battr.729
???
Heerestruppen.
Eisb.Battr.744
???
Heerestruppen.
Eisb.Battr.(K5 Glatt) 749
December 1944 [16th]
[Eisb.Art.Abt.z.b.V.725]
Two 28cm K5 glatt(E) [ ? 125km range ?]]
Eisb.Battr.752
???
Heerestruppen.
Eisb.Battr.(Bruno S) 755
November 1944 [23rd]
Called 1./Eisb.Battr.(Bruno S) 755.
28cm(E).
December 1944 [16th]
Bruno S (E).
Eisb.Battr.765
Eisb.Art.Rgt.Stab.766
Formed pre May 1940.
???
Heerestruppen.
Eisb.Art.Rgt.Stab.z.b.V.780
Formed circa October 1939.
May 1940
[6.Armee]
July 1941
To eastern front as reinforcement.
May 1942
[O.K.W. reserves]
Eisb.Battr.780
Formed pre May 1940.
Eisb.Art.Rgt.Stab.z.b.V.781
Formed pre May 1940.
Eisb.Art.Rgt.Stab.z.b.V.833
June 1941 [22nd]
[H.Gr.Süd, 17.Armee, IV.Armeekorps]
Eisb.Art.Abt.1227
???
Heerestruppen.
Sorry all I have.
David
Thanks very much david... I agree they have been very hard to track, I have a very good record of which guns were produced when, especially from Krupps. But onnce they were in the field its been very hard to locate them. I know of the Sevastapol and stalingrad gun deployments, not much more.
Your information has been very helpful! thanks.
Your information has been very helpful! thanks.
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Rail guns
Your welcome.
David
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German RR guns
This is a listing of all the RR gun units that I've been able to track for the last half of 1941 in Russia. This information is derived from the Geheimen Tagesberichte and a number of Kriegsgliederungs in my possession and is incomplete. Unfortunately I do not have many Kriegsgliederungs for Army Group Center and really cannot judge which units remained in the East and which did not.
Artillerie-Batterie (E) 625
7 Nov 41 bombarding Leningrad
Stab Eis.Art.Abt. 679
22 Jun 41 assigned to 4th Army, Army Group Center
21 Nov 41 18th Army, Army Group North with E-Bttr. 686 and 695
8 Dec 41 18th Army Reserve, Army Group North
Artillerie-Batterie (E) 686
21 Nov 41 18th Army, Army Group North with 52 cm H (E) 871(f.)
8 Dec 41 18th Army Reserve, Army Group North
Artillerie-Batterie (E) 690
22 Jun 41 assigned to 18th Army, Army Group North with kurze Bruno Kanonen
Artillerie-Batterie (E) 695
21 Nov 41 18th Army, Army Group North with 28 cm K
8 Dec 41 18th Army Reserve, Army Group North
Artillerie-Batterie (E) 696
22 Jun 41 assigned to 18th Army, Army Group North with kurze Bruno Kanonen
Artillerie-Batterie (E) 701
22 Jun 41 1x 21cm K 12, assigned to Army Group South
Stab Art.Abt. (E) 702
22 Jun 41 assigned to 4th Army, Army Group Center
Artillerie-Batterie (E) 710
19 Jun 41 arrived in VII Corps sector, 4th Army, Army Group B (Center)
Artillerie-Batterie (E) 712
22 Jun 41 2x 28cm K 5 (E), assigned to 4th Army, Army Group Center
Artillerie-Batterie (E) 713
22 Jun 41 1x 28cm K 5 (E), assigned to 4th Army, Army Group Center
Stab Art.Abt. (E) 725
22 Jun 41 assigned to 17th Army, Army Group Center with 2./ equipped with 28cm K 5 (E)
Artillerie-Batterie (E) 765
22 Jun 41 assigned to 4th Army, Army Group Center
I'll post the info I have on the RR guns at Sevastopol shortly. Can y'all do the same so we can consolidate our info? I'll need some time to absorb David's material before I can comment.
I wasn't aware that any RR guns were at Stalingrad. Details, please?
Jason
Artillerie-Batterie (E) 625
7 Nov 41 bombarding Leningrad
Stab Eis.Art.Abt. 679
22 Jun 41 assigned to 4th Army, Army Group Center
21 Nov 41 18th Army, Army Group North with E-Bttr. 686 and 695
8 Dec 41 18th Army Reserve, Army Group North
Artillerie-Batterie (E) 686
21 Nov 41 18th Army, Army Group North with 52 cm H (E) 871(f.)
8 Dec 41 18th Army Reserve, Army Group North
Artillerie-Batterie (E) 690
22 Jun 41 assigned to 18th Army, Army Group North with kurze Bruno Kanonen
Artillerie-Batterie (E) 695
21 Nov 41 18th Army, Army Group North with 28 cm K
8 Dec 41 18th Army Reserve, Army Group North
Artillerie-Batterie (E) 696
22 Jun 41 assigned to 18th Army, Army Group North with kurze Bruno Kanonen
Artillerie-Batterie (E) 701
22 Jun 41 1x 21cm K 12, assigned to Army Group South
Stab Art.Abt. (E) 702
22 Jun 41 assigned to 4th Army, Army Group Center
Artillerie-Batterie (E) 710
19 Jun 41 arrived in VII Corps sector, 4th Army, Army Group B (Center)
Artillerie-Batterie (E) 712
22 Jun 41 2x 28cm K 5 (E), assigned to 4th Army, Army Group Center
Artillerie-Batterie (E) 713
22 Jun 41 1x 28cm K 5 (E), assigned to 4th Army, Army Group Center
Stab Art.Abt. (E) 725
22 Jun 41 assigned to 17th Army, Army Group Center with 2./ equipped with 28cm K 5 (E)
Artillerie-Batterie (E) 765
22 Jun 41 assigned to 4th Army, Army Group Center
I'll post the info I have on the RR guns at Sevastopol shortly. Can y'all do the same so we can consolidate our info? I'll need some time to absorb David's material before I can comment.
I wasn't aware that any RR guns were at Stalingrad. Details, please?
Jason
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Suddenly thought the following would be of use, sorry for not sending earlier.
15cm K(E)
[HE, anti-concrete.]
Only four were made [One source says 18 made up to 1938].
Originally used by the army in Eisb.Art.Battr.655, they passed to the navy and were used by the navy as Battr.Gneisenau, they then returned to the army with the battery retaining its name. The guns of Battr.Gneisenau when they were Navy guns had ship type armoured superstructures added.
17cm K(E)
[HE.]
Only six were made.
Used by Eisb.Art.Battr.717 and Eisb.Art.Battr.718.
A battery was in France in 1942.
A battery was captured in Holland in 1945.
19,4cm K(E) 486(f)
19,4cm K(E) 93(f)
Some were used from 1940 both as railway guns and as coast defence guns.
20,3cm SKC/34 (E) latter 20,3cm K(E)
[AP, HE, star.]
The designation changed after 1941.
Made: 4 in 1941, 4 in 1942.
21cm K12(E)
[HE.]
Only one was in use at any time with Eisb.Art.Battr.701.
Made: 1 (one) in 1940.
24cm Th.Br. K(E) [Th.Br. = Theodor Bruno]
[HE.]
Six made.
24cm Theodor K(E)
[HE.]
Three made.
24cm K(E) 558(f) or 24cm K(E) 93/96(f)
Originally some were used as railway guns, but most were dismounted.
By 1943 most had been scrapped or diverted for coastal defence. When used for coastal defence they were emplaced as fixed guns.
In late 1943 only twelve were in use :
· Four near St.Nazaire in France
· Two at La Bats Battr near St.Nazaire in France
· Two at Prefailles Battr near St.Nazaire in France
· Four were sent to Ofoten/Lofoten near Narvik in Norway.
Started as MKB.Ofoton/Lofoten, became in spring 1944 MKB 6/503 subordinated to Art.Gruppe Stavanger-Süd.
27,4cm K(E) 592(f)
???
28cm K5(E)
Between 26 and 28 were made [Book M2 says 25].
Eight in service February 1940.
In 1942 to 1943 Eisb.Art.Rgt.z.b.V.679 used two.
Two were captured at Anzio [one of these was called Leopold by its crew].
28cm kürze Bruno K(E) [kürze = short]
[AP, HE.]
Only eight were made from 1936 to 1938.
Two each were used by Eisb.Art.Battr.690, Eisb.Art.Battr.694, Eisb.Art.Battr.695 and Eisb.Art.Battr.696.
28cm lange Bruno K(E) [lange = long]
[HE.]
All three were used by Eisb.Art.Battr.688, however, only two were in use at any one time.
Made: 3 (three) in 1941.
28cm s.Bruno K(E)
Used by Eisb.Battr.689.
Made: 2 (two) in 1941.
31cm K5 Glatt (E)
Made: 2 (two) in 1944.
32cm K(E) 651(f)
32cm K(E) 651/1(f)
32cm K(E) 652(f)
651 refers to very old guns, 651/1 refers to old guns with enlarged chambers, 652 refers to the modernized guns of 1917.
34cm KW(E) 674(f)
Four went to Plouharnel near Quiberon in Brittany, France.
37cm Haub(E) 711(f)
Three were used by Eisb.Art.Battr.695.
Two were used by Eisb.Art.Battr.711.
38cm Siegfried(E)
Made: 2 (two) in 1942, 1 (one) in 1943.
40cm Haub(E) 752(f)
The Germans captured eight :
. Two were kept as spare guns.
. Three went to Eisb.Art.Battr.693
. Three went to Eisb.Art.Battr.696
These guns do not appear to have been used after middle 1944.
52cm Haub(E) 871(f)
The Germans captured one.
Used at Lenningrad from 1942 to 1944.
Captured at Lenningrad during the breakout in 1944.
80cm K(E)
Three were ordered, only two were completed. They were known as „Dora” and then from 22nd June 1942 as „schwere Gustav”.
They were only used at Sevastopol and Warsaw in 1944 as it took six weeks to set them up, and six weeks to dismantle them.
Made: 1 (one) in 1941, 1 (one) in 1942.
Hope it proves of interest.
David
15cm K(E)
[HE, anti-concrete.]
Only four were made [One source says 18 made up to 1938].
Originally used by the army in Eisb.Art.Battr.655, they passed to the navy and were used by the navy as Battr.Gneisenau, they then returned to the army with the battery retaining its name. The guns of Battr.Gneisenau when they were Navy guns had ship type armoured superstructures added.
17cm K(E)
[HE.]
Only six were made.
Used by Eisb.Art.Battr.717 and Eisb.Art.Battr.718.
A battery was in France in 1942.
A battery was captured in Holland in 1945.
19,4cm K(E) 486(f)
19,4cm K(E) 93(f)
Some were used from 1940 both as railway guns and as coast defence guns.
20,3cm SKC/34 (E) latter 20,3cm K(E)
[AP, HE, star.]
The designation changed after 1941.
Made: 4 in 1941, 4 in 1942.
21cm K12(E)
[HE.]
Only one was in use at any time with Eisb.Art.Battr.701.
Made: 1 (one) in 1940.
24cm Th.Br. K(E) [Th.Br. = Theodor Bruno]
[HE.]
Six made.
24cm Theodor K(E)
[HE.]
Three made.
24cm K(E) 558(f) or 24cm K(E) 93/96(f)
Originally some were used as railway guns, but most were dismounted.
By 1943 most had been scrapped or diverted for coastal defence. When used for coastal defence they were emplaced as fixed guns.
In late 1943 only twelve were in use :
· Four near St.Nazaire in France
· Two at La Bats Battr near St.Nazaire in France
· Two at Prefailles Battr near St.Nazaire in France
· Four were sent to Ofoten/Lofoten near Narvik in Norway.
Started as MKB.Ofoton/Lofoten, became in spring 1944 MKB 6/503 subordinated to Art.Gruppe Stavanger-Süd.
27,4cm K(E) 592(f)
???
28cm K5(E)
Between 26 and 28 were made [Book M2 says 25].
Eight in service February 1940.
In 1942 to 1943 Eisb.Art.Rgt.z.b.V.679 used two.
Two were captured at Anzio [one of these was called Leopold by its crew].
28cm kürze Bruno K(E) [kürze = short]
[AP, HE.]
Only eight were made from 1936 to 1938.
Two each were used by Eisb.Art.Battr.690, Eisb.Art.Battr.694, Eisb.Art.Battr.695 and Eisb.Art.Battr.696.
28cm lange Bruno K(E) [lange = long]
[HE.]
All three were used by Eisb.Art.Battr.688, however, only two were in use at any one time.
Made: 3 (three) in 1941.
28cm s.Bruno K(E)
Used by Eisb.Battr.689.
Made: 2 (two) in 1941.
31cm K5 Glatt (E)
Made: 2 (two) in 1944.
32cm K(E) 651(f)
32cm K(E) 651/1(f)
32cm K(E) 652(f)
651 refers to very old guns, 651/1 refers to old guns with enlarged chambers, 652 refers to the modernized guns of 1917.
34cm KW(E) 674(f)
Four went to Plouharnel near Quiberon in Brittany, France.
37cm Haub(E) 711(f)
Three were used by Eisb.Art.Battr.695.
Two were used by Eisb.Art.Battr.711.
38cm Siegfried(E)
Made: 2 (two) in 1942, 1 (one) in 1943.
40cm Haub(E) 752(f)
The Germans captured eight :
. Two were kept as spare guns.
. Three went to Eisb.Art.Battr.693
. Three went to Eisb.Art.Battr.696
These guns do not appear to have been used after middle 1944.
52cm Haub(E) 871(f)
The Germans captured one.
Used at Lenningrad from 1942 to 1944.
Captured at Lenningrad during the breakout in 1944.
80cm K(E)
Three were ordered, only two were completed. They were known as „Dora” and then from 22nd June 1942 as „schwere Gustav”.
They were only used at Sevastopol and Warsaw in 1944 as it took six weeks to set them up, and six weeks to dismantle them.
Made: 1 (one) in 1941, 1 (one) in 1942.
Hope it proves of interest.
David