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Army group C order of battle December 1944
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:27 pm
by JeffF
Hello, years ago someone from this forum was kind enough to send me the complete German Army order of battle for late 1944 however for the Italian theater the army and corps designations to which the divisions were assigned was cut off from the photocopy. Could anyone please provide the order of battle from army group to army to corps from December 1944 (the time just prior to the Ardennes Offensive in NW Europe)?
Thanks!
Re: Army group C order of battle December 1944
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:34 pm
by John W. Howard
Hello Jeff: I can give you Stand 26.11.1944 and/or 31.12.1944. Do you have a preference or do you want both?? I do not have time now, but I will get them to you soon. Best wishes.
Re: Army group C order of battle December 1944
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:13 pm
by JeffF
John. Much appreciated. Both if you please at your convenience.
Re: Army group C order of battle December 1944
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:00 am
by John W. Howard
Hi Jeff:
HEERESGRUPPE C, (zugleich Ob Sudwest) mit 115. F.A.(i.Aufst.)
Stand: 26. November 1944
Armee=Gr. Ligurien(LXXXVII.) mit 162.(turk)(V. 1 Rgt.), ital. SS-Brig.(I. Aufst.)
LXXV: 157 Geb., 5.Geb., 2.ital, 34.
14. Armee:
Korps Lombardia: 3 ital., Teile 4. ital. Geb., Teile 148
LI. Geb: 148(v.1 Rgt.) + 4. ital. Geb.(v. 1 Rgt.), 232.(bo.)
10. Armee mit 90 Pz. Gr. und 362.
I. Fallsch: 94., 16.SS Pz. Gren. "Reichsfuhrer SS", 4.Fallsch.Jg.
XIV. Pz.: 65., 29.PzGr., 42Jg. 1Fallsch.Jg., 98., 334.
LXXVI. Pz.: 715., 305., 278., 356., 26.Pz.+ K.Gr. 20. Lw.Feld
LXXIII.: 114.Jg., 1.Rgt.162.(turk)
LXXXXVII. z.b.V.: 71.(I. Abtr. zum Ob Sudost)
188. Res.Geb.
237.(bo.)
Re: Army group C order of battle December 1944
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:26 am
by John W. Howard
Hi Jeff:
Heeresgruppe C, (zugleich Ob Sudwest) mit 155.(Feldausb. in Aufst.) und 305.
Stand: 31 December 1944
Armeegruppe Ligurien: 162.(turk. ohne 1 Rgt.), ital. SS-Brig.(in Aufst.)
LXXV: 5.Geb., 2.ital., 34.
Korps Lombardia: 3.ital., Teile 148., Teile 4. ital. Geb.
14 Armee mit 1.ital.
LI Geb.: 148.(ohne 1 Rgt.), 4.ital. Geb.(ohne 1 Rgt.), 232(bo.)
10 Armee mit 26.Pz., 157 Geb., 98.
I. Fsch.: 94., 4.Fsch.Jg.
XIV Pz.: 65., 362., 42Jg., 1 Fsch.Jg., 334.
LXXVI. Pz.: 715., 90 Pz. Gren., 29 Pz. Gren., 278.
LXIII. z.b.V.: 356., 1 Rgt.162(Turk), 16.SS-Pz. Gren. "RF-SS", 114Jg., Teile 710.
LXXXXVII. z.b.V.: 188 Res. Geb., 237(bo.) Ma. 710.(in Aufst.)
Re: Army group C order of battle December 1944
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:12 pm
by JeffF
Hello John. I was unable to see this till today. Thank you so much for the OB.
Re: Army group C order of battle December 1944
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:27 pm
by JeffF
John could you tell me what "Teile" (e.g. Teile 148) means? And I think "ohne 1 Rgt" means that one of the specified division's subordinate regiments is detached, is that right? Or is there another meaning? Thanks!
Re: Army group C order of battle December 1944
Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:13 pm
by John W. Howard
"Teile" means "part of", so Teile 148 means part of the 148th Div. was present. You are correct about "ohne". Best wishes.