Does anyone have any data for these, especially for the standard troop transport trucks? I've been trying a couple of searches on the forums, but haven't turned anything up. If I've missed a thread, feel free to point me at it.
It's not as glamorous as tanks and guns, but....still important data someone hopefully kept statistics on.
Troop Capacity of German trucks and half-tracks
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Every truck in a motorized infantry company had to carry a Infanteriegruppe of ten men. The rest of the space in a truck is filled up with the rest of the personnel of the company. Which means 53 men in 4 trucks (+ messenger on motorcycle)
Sd.Kfz.250 carries a Panzergrenadier half group
Sd.Kfz.251 carries a Panzergrenadier group (= 8 men) plus the rest of the company which means 34 men in three Sd.Kfz.251.
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Every truck in a motorized infantry company had to carry a Infanteriegruppe of ten men. The rest of the space in a truck is filled up with the rest of the personnel of the company. Which means 53 men in 4 trucks (+ messenger on motorcycle)
Sd.Kfz.250 carries a Panzergrenadier half group
Sd.Kfz.251 carries a Panzergrenadier group (= 8 men) plus the rest of the company which means 34 men in three Sd.Kfz.251.
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So something roughly in the 10-15 range should be reasonable for most standard transport trucks, then?
What I'm doing is for wargaming, as I'm trying to take the Operation Warboard ruleset and shift it slightly to a 1:1 ratio (minus cooks, clerks, and whatnot) from its vaguely 1:2/1:3 ratio. Therefore, my goal was to see if I needed to adjust the troop capacity of the vehicles to keep them properly proportioned. In Warboard, both men and cargo items (mines, heavy weapons, engineer equipment, etc) are measured in "man-spaces", and most large trucks are classified as a capacity of 12 man-spaces of men and equipment.
What I'm doing is for wargaming, as I'm trying to take the Operation Warboard ruleset and shift it slightly to a 1:1 ratio (minus cooks, clerks, and whatnot) from its vaguely 1:2/1:3 ratio. Therefore, my goal was to see if I needed to adjust the troop capacity of the vehicles to keep them properly proportioned. In Warboard, both men and cargo items (mines, heavy weapons, engineer equipment, etc) are measured in "man-spaces", and most large trucks are classified as a capacity of 12 man-spaces of men and equipment.
1 to 1
Take a look at the KStN on Christoph's site for actual 1 to 1. Remember that your cooks, clerks, truck drivers, were used as "alarm" units, in case of emergency.
Consider using actual platoons or companies to represent larger units. For example, using a Motorized Bn HQ, 3 Rifle Companies, 1 Motorcycle Company, a Platoon of 2 75mm leIG, and a Platoon of 3 37mm PaK, you can portray an early war Motorized Brigade of 1 Motorized Regiment of 3 Battalions & 1 Motorcycle Battalion and have a fairly accurate ration of combat troops to support troops. (Keeping the cooks, clerks, etc. means you don't need to devote a combat unit to "protect" a HQ)
On a smaller scale, you might use a Company HQ and a combination of Motorized and Motorcycle Platoons, a Machine-Gun Platoon with 4 HMGs and two 80mm mortars, with a single 75mm le IG and a single 37mm PaK.
Obviously you can also do the same thing with tanks, artillery, etc.
Consider using actual platoons or companies to represent larger units. For example, using a Motorized Bn HQ, 3 Rifle Companies, 1 Motorcycle Company, a Platoon of 2 75mm leIG, and a Platoon of 3 37mm PaK, you can portray an early war Motorized Brigade of 1 Motorized Regiment of 3 Battalions & 1 Motorcycle Battalion and have a fairly accurate ration of combat troops to support troops. (Keeping the cooks, clerks, etc. means you don't need to devote a combat unit to "protect" a HQ)
On a smaller scale, you might use a Company HQ and a combination of Motorized and Motorcycle Platoons, a Machine-Gun Platoon with 4 HMGs and two 80mm mortars, with a single 75mm le IG and a single 37mm PaK.
Obviously you can also do the same thing with tanks, artillery, etc.
Re: Troop Capacity of German trucks and half-tracks
German HT company: (251 3-ton HT model)
2 half-tracks...HQ...24 men
4 half-tracks...platoon...48 men
4 half-tracks...platoon...48 men
German HT company: (250 1-ton HT model)
2 half-tracks...HQ...12 men
4 half-tracks...platoon...24 men
4 half-tracks...platoon...24 men
2 half-tracks...HQ...24 men
4 half-tracks...platoon...48 men
4 half-tracks...platoon...48 men
German HT company: (250 1-ton HT model)
2 half-tracks...HQ...12 men
4 half-tracks...platoon...24 men
4 half-tracks...platoon...24 men
Re: Troop Capacity of German trucks and half-tracks
Soviet motorized infantry brigade: Stalingrad: November 1942nebelwerferXXX wrote:German HT company: (251 3-ton HT model)
2 half-tracks...HQ...24 men
4 half-tracks...platoon...48 men
4 half-tracks...platoon...48 men
German HT company: (250 1-ton HT model)
2 half-tracks...HQ...12 men
4 half-tracks...platoon...24 men
4 half-tracks...platoon...24 men
5 T-34 tanks...20 crewmen and 50 men, tank riders
8 US-made jeeps...24 men
4 US-made 6x6 trucks...56 men
1 armoured car...5 crewmen and 10 riders