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Tieflader für Panzerkampfwagen

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2002 3:01 pm
by Christoph Awender
Hello!

Again I need the help of the community. During the work on my KStN charts I sometimes have problems to determine the correct vehicles/trailers.

In a Panzerwerkstattkompanie KStN 1187 (5.10.1937) there are 5 trailers for tank transports with the designation Vsah.654 and Vsah.642. The 642 seems to be for heavier tanks as it is towed by the Sd.Kfz.9.

I know Sd.Ah.115 and 116 but how do these two above mentioned look? Were they the same with just another (pre war) designation?
Any info on Vsah.654 and 642 welcome.

Christoph

Tank Transporter Trailers

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2002 5:01 pm
by Paul Hanson
Christoph;

Again, Milsom's book as I've quoted before.

SdAh115 - 8/10ton transporter
SdAh116 - 23ton transporter
SdAn118 - 45ton transporter
SdAn123 - 68ton transporter

The 115 is shown as a "low-boy" transporter( as we call it in the US, doubt that it is called that in the rest of the world). The center load-carrying portion is set down about right below the wheel hub centerline.

The 60/68ton transporter is a level carrier running on 24 wheels on 6 axles spread over the length of the trailer.

No photos or details of the other variants.

I've seen Milsom's book on eBay everal times. Well worth getting.

Paul

trailers

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2002 5:38 pm
by Christoph Awender
Thanks again Paul but my question was about the Vsah designations. I have fotos of all the Sd.Ah. versions but not of these Vsah. trailers. :(

Christoph

Re: Tieflader für Panzerkampfwagen

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 1:27 pm
by tigre
Hello to all :D; just to close the ring...........................

Vs ah.654 and Vsah.642.

AFAIK both the Tiefladeanhänger für Panzerkampfwagen 20t (Vs. Ah. 642) and the Tiefladeanhänger für Panzerkampfwagen 8t (Vs. Ah. 654) were testing model of the Tiefladeanhänger für Panzerkampfwagen 22/23t (Sd. Ah. 116) introduced in Dec 1940 and the Tiefladeanhänger für Panzerkampfwagen 10t (Sd. Ah. 115) introduced in Apr 1938. Vs. stands for Versuch-experimental.

Sources: http://www.kfzderwehrmacht.de/Homepage_ ... ilers.html

Cheers. Raúl M 8).

Re: Tieflader für Panzerkampfwagen

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 9:10 am
by tigre
Hello to all :D; a little more......................

The Sd. Ah. 115!

Source: in the picture.

Cheers. Raúl M 8).

Re: Tieflader für Panzerkampfwagen

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 6:11 am
by tigre
Hello to all :D; a little more......................

The Sd. Ah. 116!

Source: http://www.panzer-modell.de/referenz/fo ... /album.htm.

What gradient could overcome loaded and empty? TIA. Cheers. Raúl M 8-).

Re: Tieflader für Panzerkampfwagen

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 5:41 pm
by tigre
Hello to all :D; a little more......................

The Sd. Ah. 115!

Faun L900 truck and trailer Sd. Ah. 115 carrying tanks Pz Kw I and Pz Kw II ..............................

Source: in the pictures.

Cheers. Raúl M 8).

Re: Tieflader für Panzerkampfwagen

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 3:17 pm
by tigre
Hello to all :D; a little more......................

The Sd. Ah. 116!

Source: 1221# Foto WH Panzer Transporter Schwertransporter Anhänger.

Cheers. Raúl M 8).

Re: Tieflader für Panzerkampfwagen

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2015 1:46 pm
by tigre
Hello to all :D; a little more......................

German Tank transporters!

Source: http://odkrywca.pl/panzer-1939-czesc-10,676891.html.

Cheers. Raúl M 8).

Re: Tieflader für Panzerkampfwagen

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 2:40 pm
by tigre
Hello to all :D; a little more......................

German Tank transporters!

Source: http://odkrywca.pl/wrzesien-1939-zdjeci ... 50461.html

Cheers. Raúl M 8).

Feliz Navidad - Feliz Natal - Frohe Weihnachten - Joyeux Noël - Merry Christmas - Wesołych Świąt!. :up:

Re: Tieflader für Panzerkampfwagen

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 1:24 pm
by tigre
Hello to all :D; a little more......................

German Tank transporters!

Source: Original Foto deutscher Panzer auf Anhänger 2.WK. eBay Auction.

Cheers. Raúl M 8).

Feliz Año Nuevo - Happy New Year - feliz Ano Novo - gluckliches Neues Jahr - Bonne Année - Felice Anno Nuovo - Szczęśliwego nowego roku!! :beer:

Re: Tieflader für Panzerkampfwagen

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 6:24 am
by tigre
Hello to all :D; a little more......................

The Sd. Ah. 116!

Source: http://imf.forum24.ru/?1-24-20-00000032 ... 1305482769.

Cheers. Raúl M 8).

Re: Tieflader für Panzerkampfwagen

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:59 am
by tigre
Hello to all :D; a little more......................

German Tank transporters! Light Division on the move - Poland in 1939.

Source: http://odkrywca.pl/panzer-1939-czesc-14,721701.html.

Cheers. Raúl M 8).

Re: Tieflader für Panzerkampfwagen

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 2:55 pm
by tigre
Hello to all :D; a little more......................

German Tank transporters! Light Division on the move - Poland in 1939.

Source: http://odkrywca.pl/panzer-1939-czesc-14,721701.html.

Cheers. Raúl M 8).

Re: Tieflader für Panzerkampfwagen

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 7:37 am
by tigre
Hello to all :D; a little more.........................

German Tank transporters!

Source: Source: http://odkrywca.pl/panzer-1939-czesc-14,721701.html.
AD65-Panzer-III-Langrohr-Turmnummer-111-auf-Tieflader-Sonderanhanger-Zugmittel

Cheers. Raúl M 8).