What was the Legion Condor made up from? Where there only Luftwaffe units or also Heer/Kriegsmarine units?
Legion Condor
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legion condor
Luftwaffe, and whermacht (panzer) personel, but unofficially, composed most of th elegion condor, some kriegsmarine units also intervined, but as "observers" offshore, even some deahts were infilcted in the kriegmsarine when one ship was mistakenly shelled/bombed.
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Xavier
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Xavier
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The J./ 88 of the Legion Condor (1936-39).
Hello to all ; just a brief summary here..................
Structure and Emblems of the J./ 88 in Spain.
Structure of the J./88
Commanders:
Major Hubertus v. Merhart (03.11.1936 - 18.07.1937)
Major Gotthard Handrick (18.07.1937 - 10.09.1938)
Hauptmann Walter Grabmann (10.09.1938 bis Ende)
Brustelin foreseen as next CO.
1. Staffel: Emblems "Marabu", He 51 / "Holzauge", Bf 109
Hauptmann Werner Palm (03.11.1936 - 06.04.1937)
Hauptmann Harro Harder (06.04.1937 - 18.12.1937)
Hauptmann Wolfgang Schellmann (19.12.1937 - 02.09.1938)
Hauptmann Siebelt Reents (02.09.1938 bis Ende)
2. Staffel: "Zylinder" (top Hat)
Hauptmann Siegfried Lehmann (03.11.1936 - 19.03.1937)
Hauptmann Günther Lützow (19.03.1937 - 06.09.1937)
Hauptmann Joachim Schlichting (06.09.1937 - 28.05.1938)
Oberleutnant Alfred v. Lojewski (01.11.1938 to the end)
3. Staffel: "Micky-Maus" (Mickey mouse), He 51and Bf 109
Oberleutnant Jürgen Roth (03.11.1936 - April 1937)
Oberleutnant Douglas Pitcairn (April 1937 - 26.07.1937)
Oberleutnant Adolf Galland (27.07.1937 - 24.05.1938)
Hauptmann Werner Mölders (24.05.1938 - 05.12.1938)
Oberleutnant Hubertus v. Bonin (05.12.1938 to the end)
4. Staffel: "Pik As"
Oberleutnant Kraft Eberhardt (06.08.1936 - 13.11.1936)
Hauptmann Herwig Knüppel (13.11.1936 - 01.03.1937)
Oberleutnant Walter Kienzle (01.03.1937 - März 1937 / dissolved)
4. Staffel (new):
Oberleutnant Eberhard d'Elsa (02.11.1937 - 17.06.1938 / dissolved)
Sources: http://forum.panzer-archiv.de/viewtopic ... or&start=0
http://www.zonamilitar.com.ar/foros/thr ... 109.24000/
http://reibert.info/forum/showthread.php?t=30929
Cheers. Raúl M .
Structure and Emblems of the J./ 88 in Spain.
Structure of the J./88
Commanders:
Major Hubertus v. Merhart (03.11.1936 - 18.07.1937)
Major Gotthard Handrick (18.07.1937 - 10.09.1938)
Hauptmann Walter Grabmann (10.09.1938 bis Ende)
Brustelin foreseen as next CO.
1. Staffel: Emblems "Marabu", He 51 / "Holzauge", Bf 109
Hauptmann Werner Palm (03.11.1936 - 06.04.1937)
Hauptmann Harro Harder (06.04.1937 - 18.12.1937)
Hauptmann Wolfgang Schellmann (19.12.1937 - 02.09.1938)
Hauptmann Siebelt Reents (02.09.1938 bis Ende)
2. Staffel: "Zylinder" (top Hat)
Hauptmann Siegfried Lehmann (03.11.1936 - 19.03.1937)
Hauptmann Günther Lützow (19.03.1937 - 06.09.1937)
Hauptmann Joachim Schlichting (06.09.1937 - 28.05.1938)
Oberleutnant Alfred v. Lojewski (01.11.1938 to the end)
3. Staffel: "Micky-Maus" (Mickey mouse), He 51and Bf 109
Oberleutnant Jürgen Roth (03.11.1936 - April 1937)
Oberleutnant Douglas Pitcairn (April 1937 - 26.07.1937)
Oberleutnant Adolf Galland (27.07.1937 - 24.05.1938)
Hauptmann Werner Mölders (24.05.1938 - 05.12.1938)
Oberleutnant Hubertus v. Bonin (05.12.1938 to the end)
4. Staffel: "Pik As"
Oberleutnant Kraft Eberhardt (06.08.1936 - 13.11.1936)
Hauptmann Herwig Knüppel (13.11.1936 - 01.03.1937)
Oberleutnant Walter Kienzle (01.03.1937 - März 1937 / dissolved)
4. Staffel (new):
Oberleutnant Eberhard d'Elsa (02.11.1937 - 17.06.1938 / dissolved)
Sources: http://forum.panzer-archiv.de/viewtopic ... or&start=0
http://www.zonamilitar.com.ar/foros/thr ... 109.24000/
http://reibert.info/forum/showthread.php?t=30929
Cheers. Raúl M .
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Re: Legion Condor
Hello to all ; the Bf 109D 6-56 was previously flown by Major Gotthard Handrick, the only change was the "h" in the circle. Later it was flown by Walter Grabmann, hence the "G" in the circle in the picture in the first post............
Here goes some pictures of the Bf 109 6-56 in when Handrick was in command of J./ 88.....
Source: http://www.network54.com/Forum/473104/m ... Parte+4%5D
Cheers. Raúl M .
Here goes some pictures of the Bf 109 6-56 in when Handrick was in command of J./ 88.....
Source: http://www.network54.com/Forum/473104/m ... Parte+4%5D
Cheers. Raúl M .
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- Handrick won the pentathlon during the Olympic games of 1936 in Berlin which explains the Olympic circles on the spinner............................
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Serás lo que debas ser o no serás nada. General José de San Martín.
Re: Legion Condor
Hello to all ; about the Bf-109 6-109 was a Bf-109 in Spanish service (Grupo de Caza Nº 25), after the Civil War, being destroyed in an accident in 1941 (here perished alférez Juan José Bouza Gómez). This Bf 109E has served previously with 3.J/88, piloted by Kurt Sochatzki.
Many thanks to Ironmachine and Noviscum Deus (fellows in others forums) . Cheers. Raúl M .
Many thanks to Ironmachine and Noviscum Deus (fellows in others forums) . Cheers. Raúl M .
Serás lo que debas ser o no serás nada. General José de San Martín.
Re: Legion Condor
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The automobile of the Commander of the Legion Condor......
Source: http://reibert.info/forum/showthread.php?t=30929
Cheers. Raul M .
The automobile of the Commander of the Legion Condor......
Source: http://reibert.info/forum/showthread.php?t=30929
Cheers. Raul M .
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Re: Legion Condor
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The banner of the Legion Condor.
Source: http://miniaturasmilitaresalfonscanovas ... r-iii.html
Cheers. Raúl M .
The banner of the Legion Condor.
Source: http://miniaturasmilitaresalfonscanovas ... r-iii.html
Cheers. Raúl M .
Serás lo que debas ser o no serás nada. General José de San Martín.
Re: Legion Condor
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The successor of General Sperrle in the command of the Legion Condor, Generalleutnant Helmut Volckmann (October 1937 - November 1938). At the beginning of World War II he returned to the Army and commanded the 94th ID with which fought in France in 1940. Seriously injured in a car accident on August 4, 1940, later succumbed to his injuries.
Source: Der Adler 1939 – Heft 08
Cheers. Raúl M .
The successor of General Sperrle in the command of the Legion Condor, Generalleutnant Helmut Volckmann (October 1937 - November 1938). At the beginning of World War II he returned to the Army and commanded the 94th ID with which fought in France in 1940. Seriously injured in a car accident on August 4, 1940, later succumbed to his injuries.
Source: Der Adler 1939 – Heft 08
Cheers. Raúl M .
Serás lo que debas ser o no serás nada. General José de San Martín.
Re: Legion Condor
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Ju 52 3mg3e / 3mg4e.
Still in 1936 were used by the Luftwaffe as bombers. A large number of such aircrafts were delivered to Spain. For acting as transport troops (Tetouan-Spain) were removed its bombs containers. Up to 40 men could be transported by this plane. As pure bomber was less formidable as it was very slow and its defensive armament was weak.
K/88 (Kampfgruppe)
Gruppenkommandeur = Major Nielsen
1. K/88 = Hauptmann Püttmann (1936: Hptm. v. Moreau)
2. K/88 = Hauptmann v. Buttlar und Brandenfels (1936: Oblt. Fuchs)
3. K/88 = Hauptmann Winkler (1936: Hptm. Krafft v. Dellmensingen)
Stuka K/88 = Oberleutnant Bohne - "Teufel", Hs 123
Source: http://forum.panzer-archiv.de/viewtopic ... or&start=0
http://www.ebay.de/sch/Fotos-Briefe-Pos ... c=48&rt=nc
Cheers. Raúl M .
Ju 52 3mg3e / 3mg4e.
Still in 1936 were used by the Luftwaffe as bombers. A large number of such aircrafts were delivered to Spain. For acting as transport troops (Tetouan-Spain) were removed its bombs containers. Up to 40 men could be transported by this plane. As pure bomber was less formidable as it was very slow and its defensive armament was weak.
K/88 (Kampfgruppe)
Gruppenkommandeur = Major Nielsen
1. K/88 = Hauptmann Püttmann (1936: Hptm. v. Moreau)
2. K/88 = Hauptmann v. Buttlar und Brandenfels (1936: Oblt. Fuchs)
3. K/88 = Hauptmann Winkler (1936: Hptm. Krafft v. Dellmensingen)
Stuka K/88 = Oberleutnant Bohne - "Teufel", Hs 123
Source: http://forum.panzer-archiv.de/viewtopic ... or&start=0
http://www.ebay.de/sch/Fotos-Briefe-Pos ... c=48&rt=nc
Cheers. Raúl M .
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- The Ju-52 22o90 after a forced landing at??? ...........................
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Re: Legion Condor
Hello to all ; a couple of pictures ................
The J. / 88 in Spain.
Bf-109E aircrafts from 2. Staffel in Spain in.............
Source: http://www.ebay.de/sch/Fotos-Briefe-Pos ... c=48&rt=nc
Cheers. Raúl M .
The J. / 88 in Spain.
Bf-109E aircrafts from 2. Staffel in Spain in.............
Source: http://www.ebay.de/sch/Fotos-Briefe-Pos ... c=48&rt=nc
Cheers. Raúl M .
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- The Bf-109E number 6-130 ........................
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- View of several Bf-109E, in foreground 6-130 and in the background the 6-12? with the top hat, the squadron's hallmark..................
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Re: Legion Condor
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K./88 (Kampfgruppe).
Source:http://www.fliegerhorst-oldenburg.de/pdf/He%20111.pdf
Cheers. Raúl M .
K./88 (Kampfgruppe).
Source:http://www.fliegerhorst-oldenburg.de/pdf/He%20111.pdf
Cheers. Raúl M .
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- On the airfield of Levida. Hooking the bombs to a He-111E.............................
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Re: Legion Condor
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The J. / 88 in Spain.
Bf-109E aircrafts from 1. Staffel in Spain in.............
Source: http://www.ebay.de/sch/Fotos-Briefe-Pos ... c=48&rt=nc
Cheers. Raúl M .
The J. / 88 in Spain.
Bf-109E aircrafts from 1. Staffel in Spain in.............
Source: http://www.ebay.de/sch/Fotos-Briefe-Pos ... c=48&rt=nc
Cheers. Raúl M .
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- The Bf-109E 6-9?.......................
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- In the foreground the Bf-109E 6-88, in the background in the Bf-109E 6-10? I think I see the emblem of the 1. Staffel ...............
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Serás lo que debas ser o no serás nada. General José de San Martín.
Re: Legion Condor
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The Bf-109B in Spain.
View of the Bf 109B 6-25 after a rough landing (cause?)....................................
Source: https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/aeronet ... t4704.html
Cheers. Raúl M .
The Bf-109B in Spain.
View of the Bf 109B 6-25 after a rough landing (cause?)....................................
Source: https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/aeronet ... t4704.html
Cheers. Raúl M .
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Re: Legion Condor
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The Bf-109 in Spain.
Source: http://www.network54.com/Forum/473104/m ... Parte+2%5D
http://reibert.info/forum/showthread.php?t=30929
Cheers. Raúl M .
The Bf-109 in Spain.
Source: http://www.network54.com/Forum/473104/m ... Parte+2%5D
http://reibert.info/forum/showthread.php?t=30929
Cheers. Raúl M .
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- Consequence of the crosswind landing in Avila, the Bf-109 B 6o29 (2. Staffel) with damaged landing gear....................
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- View of the Bf 109 E 6o93 (1. Staffel) after a crash landing..................................
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Serás lo que debas ser o no serás nada. General José de San Martín.
Re: Legion Condor
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The Bf-109 in Spain.
Source: Legion Condor. Ries&Ring
Cheers. Raúl M .
The Bf-109 in Spain.
Source: Legion Condor. Ries&Ring
Cheers. Raúl M .
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- Bad Entrance In Alar del Rey (Nogales); Ofw.Reinhard Seiler lands his Bf 109B-2 6-30 headfirst, but comes off the machine with only slight jerks...................
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- Fighter pilots fare no better in Llanes. Lt. Walter Adolph lands too late and rolls off the edge of the field onto the steep slope behind...................
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Serás lo que debas ser o no serás nada. General José de San Martín.