Hi Feldgrauens,
I had a question about why some German/Austrian actors who played German WW2 military officers/soldiers kept on repeating that type of role as though it is some kind of stereotype but yet they still managed to do a quite a good job in it?
For example, in the 60s, 70s and 80s, we have Hardy Krueger, Maximillian Schell, Wolfgang Preiss, Curt Jurgens, Hans von Borsody to name a few who usually played as German soldiers or officers in WW2 war movies/dramas.
In the 80s, 90s and the 2000s, we have Jurgen Prochnow, Thomas Kretschmann, Christian Berkel, Justus von Dohanyi doing the same thing.
Take Kretschmann for example, he played a German lieutenant in the movie Stalingrad, a submarine commander in the movie U-571, a German officer again in the movie Pianist, a U-Boat first officer in the movie "In Enemy Hands", a German SS general in the movie Der Untergang and now a German general in the upcoming Valkryie.
Christian Berkel also played as a German officer in the movie Der Untergang, Paul Anderson's The Black Book and also in the upcoming Valkyrie.
Thought I would say they did a very good job in it.
Panzermahn
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'Cuz they can do a better job of playing a German than someone like, oh, say, Tom Cruise?I had a question about why some German/Austrian actors who played German WW2 military officers/soldiers kept on repeating that type of role as though it is some kind of stereotype but yet they still managed to do a quite a good job in it?
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I will give credit where credit is due. I have been impressed with his performance in the last two of his films I saw: Collateral and Last Samurai. I think he did a good job in those. He's come a long way since Risky Business!! I am looking forward to seeing Valkyrie. Now if they had just hired some of the Feldgrau Experten to help, we'd know it would be a great film!
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Gert Fröbe also took the uniform a number of times, including that of General von Choltitz in "Is Paris burning?" (1966)
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Hello Fellow Movie lovers!
Don't forget Sam Peckinpah's classic "Cross of Iron" (1977) where many of the supporting cast were german actors. Yes, there was Maximilian Schell but also many others... And of course the beautiful Senta Berger from Austria!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074695/
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Don't forget Sam Peckinpah's classic "Cross of Iron" (1977) where many of the supporting cast were german actors. Yes, there was Maximilian Schell but also many others... And of course the beautiful Senta Berger from Austria!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074695/
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Is this the movie where David Warner's haircut makes him looks more like a hippie than a true Landser?Doktor Krollspell wrote:
Don't forget Sam Peckinpah's classic "Cross of Iron" (1977) where many of the supporting cast were german actors.
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That's the one, Marc!
David Warner as Hauptmann Kiesel
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Still, as an old Peckinpah fan, I think that the movie's combat scenes still holds today. From a 30 year perspective...
Great movie!
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Still, as an old Peckinpah fan, I think that the movie's combat scenes still holds today. From a 30 year perspective...
Great movie!
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Personally I prefer German actors to play German parts in films. I also much prefer Germans speaking German in films, especially ones about WWII.
For example, Der Untergang felt so much more authentic, I believe, precisely because the majority of the actors were native Germans or Austrians and it was all spoken in German. Bruno Gantz’s mesmeric Hitler rants simply would not have had the same impact were they done in English with a crap German accent.
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For example, Der Untergang felt so much more authentic, I believe, precisely because the majority of the actors were native Germans or Austrians and it was all spoken in German. Bruno Gantz’s mesmeric Hitler rants simply would not have had the same impact were they done in English with a crap German accent.
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Karl Otto-Alberty in The Battle of the Bulge, Raid on Rommel & Kelly's Heroes
Anton Diffring in Where Eagles Dare & Operation Daybreak
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Re: German actors who played German WW2 uniforms in movies/drama
Ah, not forgetting Wolf Kahler (in Raiders of the Lost Ark, Force 10 from Navarone and Band of Brothers) and Michael Byrne who played a lot of German officers role (but the latter was an Englishman )
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What about Horst Buchholz?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/2818167.stm
In Life is Beautiful he played a Nazi doctor.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/2818167.stm
In Life is Beautiful he played a Nazi doctor.
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Curious how many German soldiers came over to the (western) Allies as (name slips me) in this movie. Good storyline that could be remake movie material, since WWII seems to be the war that keeps on giving movie material.
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