Einsamer_Wolf wrote:ANd so it seems that the red army did not beat back ol Hans and Fritz, but nature did.
ljadw wrote:Compared to total losses/total strength,the frostbite losses were marginal
2 possible explications
1)contrary to the general belief,the assumption that the 1941/1942 winter was the harshest in a century,is wrong
2) contrary to the general belief,the assumption that the Ostheer did not receive winter clothing is wrong:most soldiers did receive winterclothing,but not before the winter(other supplies had priority),but during the winter
Andreas wrote:Einsamer_Wolf wrote:ANd so it seems that the red army did not beat back ol Hans and Fritz, but nature did.
Err, well. I am also sure the Wehrmacht elected to not spend the winter in Moscow, because the German soldiers loved the great outdoors so much. The Soviet resistance and counter-offensive certainly had absolutely nothing to do with it. Also, it is quite well known that mud only affects German vehicles, while Soviet ones hovered above it. The Red Army soldiers just loved to fight in -25 degrees, after all we all know the Russian soldier positively hates warm temperatures... Anything I forgot about those quite dated fairy tales?
ljadw wrote:If the winter was that harsh as Dr Göbbels claimed,and if the Ostheer received no winterclothing,as all authors are parotting,no German soldier would have survived the winter of 1941/1942.Without winterclothing,no one could survive -30 C
The truth is that the numbers of amputations were 0.5 % of the manpower of the Ostheer =15000 on 3 million .
With,or without winter clothing,there still would be amputations .
In november,the winter clothing was waiting in Poland and Germany (operation Boog),but,because of Typhoon,the soldiers had to wait on the winterclothing,which arrived only partially in december .
Source :winterkleidung oder munition
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