ljadw wrote:No,the article proves my point :as colonel Frieser (of the Bundeswehr ) pointed in the Blitzkrieg Legend P292/293:the Panzers were already stopped by Kluge and Rundstedt on 23 may,and,in his note 25 on P422,Frieser ( not a Hitler lover ) writes the following:
Hans-Meier-Welcker in "Entschluss zum Anhalten der Deutschen Panzertruppen in Flandern 1940"(Viertelsjahrehefte fur Zeitgeschrifte 2^ 278 ff as early as 1954 pointed outthe agreement between Hitler's and Rundstedt's views.
Jacobsen writes the following about the decisive scene at noon on 24 may:"Hitler thus approved what Rundstedt proposed".(Dunkirchen,95 and 203) .
Unless you can prove that Frieser and Jacobsen are lying to shift the responsability from Hitler to Rundstedt,the case is closed .
Btw ,in your article it is written that following Kleist,the Panzerlosses were some 50 %,thus even more than I was thinking;the fact that a lot of them were repairable after a "short" time,is irrelevant ,the point is that at the moment the halt order was given by Rundstedt,the Panzerlosses were 50 %.
Other points,the article is not giving any information about the available number of panzers,artillery,infantry,and,there is nothing available on the British side.Conclusion :NOBODY can claim that at the moment of the halt order,the Germans could capture Dunkirk .Thus,the halt order cannot be considered as a mistake.
The post war claims that at Dunkirk Hitler was throwing away Germany's chances to win the war ,are wrong .
You are picking and choosing from the article whatever suits you. I never denied that Hitler endorsed the order by Rundstedt.
You have conveniently chosen to ignore the fact that Hitler alo rescinded the order by OKH to take command of the battle away from Rundstedt. Same thing for the protestations of the armor commanders who,in spite of the losses they had sustained, still felt themselves capable to go on. That is something you also convenienty forget to mention.
The germans had certainly sustained losses but the allies too. Anyway,the judgment of the commander on the ground is the only thing that counts.