Solution to war ?

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Solution to war ?

Postby Pastetas » Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:45 am


Ii thought of a great idea to end wars.. its a bit simplistic but tell me what simplistic but tell me what you think We start the opposite of a terrorist group
A peace group.. It needs no coordination, no leader no meetings etc. All you have to do is sabotage all ammunition. Make every 10th bullet rocket weapon etc kill the person who shoots it
Then everyone would be afraid to use their weapons..It would sure put a dent in sensless mass killings although not in the short run Even in the most aggresive countries there would always be "peace warriors" who would infiltrate everything and work covertly because they wouldnt have a need to coordinate with anyone. just sabotage as much ammo as you can is the goal..
p.s. i am in now way suggesting anyone sabotage anything merely posing the question as a solution
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Postby Reb » Tue Jan 23, 2007 12:34 pm

Why would we want to end war? Think of all those poor young men condemned to aging, marriage, bills and unwanted responsiblity! :D

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Postby phylo_roadking » Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:42 pm

Make every 10th bullet rocket weapon etc kill the person who shoots it


Have you SEEN the failure rates for military technology? Aircraft lost for mechanical problems, tanks breaking down in the field, missiles failing on generation??? If you make it every tenth you'd be IMPROVING in some areas!!!
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Postby Reb » Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:10 pm

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Have you seen Jim Dunnagins "dirty little secrets about war"? Potential enlistees would need to be plyed with a good deal more rum if they read that before accepting the Queen's guinea! :D

My own experience in a low intensity bushwar was fatalities from accident were almost equal to that from combat - not to mention injuries. Admittedly -many of the accidental fatalities were caused by very tired men using very dangerous equipment.

the others were caused by very young men playing with very dangerous equipment.

At least we were using well broken in gear (some of it older than us!). The modern soldier is essentially a beta tester for the lowest bidder - hence the love for gats like Colt .45 and M-14.


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Postby phylo_roadking » Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:30 pm

More familiar with the mechanical attrition rate of the RAF - which is actually frightening. The number of aircraft returning from aborted sorties, or lost MIA with no confirmed enemy action or contact to account for it. Incredibly complex machines getting the factory-mandated minimum of maintenance required, no "pampering" at all. Mandated checkpoints, nothing else unless checked over after combat. Regularly shot-up aircraft benefitted the most from being worked-over! The average modern private light aircraft or passenger liner is - for the hours its designed to do between checks - remarkably well looked-after. Its quite amazing how many flyers after the war DIDN'T keep up an interest, on ALL sides - just too glad to get down safely that last time!
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Postby phylo_roadking » Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:31 pm

(Mind you - if you've every ridden a British motorcycle, or driven a British car.....you'll know what I mean!)
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Postby Taylor Collector » Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:57 pm

I would have thought I wouldn't post here, but I can't resist...

How would we keep Germany from wearing better-looking uniforms than us. We have them stuck in flektarn with barely a division for now, but if they start militarizing we might have to fight again to stop them!!!

:D :wink:

You've got to love the recent obsession with WWII jackets.

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Postby Dragunov » Tue Jan 23, 2007 8:58 pm

here comes my negative rant again....

if guns don't work, blades and spears will. as humans, we'll find a way around it.

oh yeah, and peace groups aren't supposed to kill epople.

mechanical attrition rate of the RAF

or our subs.
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Postby sniper1shot » Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:27 pm

if guns don't work, blades and spears will. as humans, we'll find a way around it.

oh yeah, and peace groups aren't supposed to kill epople.


I am shaking my head here.......never thought I would EVER say this....
But *sigh* Dragunov actually made a good point here. :roll:
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Postby Pirx » Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:01 am

William Goldings "Lord of the flies"... Good book
amicus Plato, sed magis amica veritas
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Postby pzrmeyer2 » Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:50 am

I'd advocate using the other 9 bullets on so-called peace activists and appeasers, who, through their naivite and hypocrasy, perpetuate long, drawn out conflicts as we fight with our hands tied.

Just think what this would accomplish for the gene pool, hygiene improvements, and overall increase in available oxygen for the rest of us.
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Postby Reb » Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:04 am

pz meyer2

I'd not mourn the loss of the left. But I'd like to see the neo-cons with the big govt / foriegn intervention stuff hanged along side them.

Be very tough on borders, respond with overwhelming force to attacks, never get into nation building, never have colalitions with foriegn nations.

Always tell the truth to everyone.

Well - that's handled. Now own to solving world hunger! :wink:

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Postby phylo_roadking » Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:51 am

peace groups aren't supposed to kill epople.



IIRC old Metropolitan Police figures reported that peace groups marching and demonstating in London cause MORE riots in the Decade of Peace and Love than ANY other movement!!!
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Postby pzrmeyer2 » Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:36 pm

I'd like to see the neo-cons with the big govt / foriegn intervention stuff hanged along side them.




not alongside, before the lefties....





IIRC old Metropolitan Police figures reported that peace groups marching and demonstating in London cause MORE riots in the Decade of Peace and Love than ANY other movement!!!


A shame we cant timewarp some czarist police circa 1910 or some Brits from antebellum India to crack their heads...as they escort them to the gallows of course...
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Postby phylo_roadking » Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:12 pm

or some Brits from antebellum India to crack their heads


A wonderfully cooperative people durings protests - they even laid down on the railway lines themselves rather than having to be thrown off the platform!
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