Import of manganese ore from the Ukraine

[julian]

Importance of manganese ore from Ukraine 1941-1943 (in 1,000 tonnes manganese content):

Half year: II/1941 I/1942 II/1942 I/1943 II/1943 Overall
Consumption 63.8 55.7 67.4 84.1 85.8 356.8
Imports from Ukraine 25.5 39.0 86.7 94.8 70.0 316.1
Share of the imports from Ukraine on consumption in % 40.0 % 70.0 % 128.6 % 112.7 % 81.6 % 88.6 %

http://ww2total.com/WW2/History/Product ... uction.htm


These numbers illustrate the importance the imports of manganese from Nikopol had for Germany.

The following excerpt from a text on the Reichsbahn is also interesting in this respect.

'To the above "military" requirements, one also had to consider the civilian needs. Raw materials from the German occupation areas had to be brought back to Germany so that the German industry could make optimal use of them. Industry specialists had to travel from one city to another, families also had social obligations they wanted to be able to meet, etc.

In terms of supplementing German industrial needs, the following main requirements thus existed for this category of trains:


Coal from the Ukraine (never shipped in satisfying quantities).

Manganese from Nikopol.

Iron ore from Krivoi-Rog.

Timber from the Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and the Pripet march regions.

Oil-shale from Estonia (a large percentage of the Kriegsmarine's needs came from Estonian oil-shale).

Grains (foodstuffs) from the Ukraine (this was always in surplus as the Ukraine was/is a very fertile region).'

[ljadw]

Iron ore from Krivoi Rog :at the end of 1942:347.000 metric tons
Iron ore from France :at the end of 1942:17.4 MILLION metric tons
Thus the importance of Krivoi Rog :

[julian]

Anyway two minutes of googling were sufficient to contradict the allegation made by some( ) that the occupied areas in the USSR did not contribute to the german war effort. Particlualrly where manganese was concerned, the contribution was very important as numbers show.

[ljadw]

And,about the coal production :at the end of 1942,it only was 1.4 million ton(some 6 % of the pré war production) which was not shipped to Germany,but used on the spot
And,about the manganese :if the Germans had not attacked the SU,they would not need al that manganese,which mainly was used for the war in the east :a self fulfilling prophecy:in 1940,the Germans imported only 65000 ton of Soviet manganese,because.....they did not attack the SU .
Source : not 2 minutes googling ,but :
Bergbau und Eisenhüttenindustrie in der Ukraine

[julian]

The issue is that the Ukraine did contribute to the war effort. Making statements to the contrary leads to being exposed and having to backtrack.
And within the conflict taking away the enemy's resources from him is a way of hurting him. That was a factor that also played a role in Hitler wantin
g to first take and then hold onto certain areas.

[ljadw]

If the issue is "Import of manganese ore from the Ukraine",that's explaining a lot :
the fact that you are mentioning "coal from the Ukraine"
the fact that you are mentioning "iron ore from Krivoi-Rog"
the fact that you are mentioning "timber from Estonia,Latvia,Lithuania"(you did not pay attention in the lessons geography
May I also observe that there is a difference between manganese ore,iron ore and coal (only a small remark )

[julian]

If the issue is "Import of manganese ore from the Ukraine",that's explaining a lot :
the fact that you are mentioning "coal from the Ukraine"
the fact that you are mentioning "iron ore from Krivoi-Rog"
the fact that you are mentioning "timber from Estonia,Latvia,Lithuania"(you did not pay attention in the lessons geography
May I also observe that there is a difference between manganese ore,iron ore and coal (only a small remark )

You are starting to ramble. I mention nothing. I put a quote here about the Reichsbahn with a list of the goods it had to transport. I was not going to delete everything except manganese ore from that list . The list is what it is.

[ljadw]

If you did not mention timber,coal,iron ore,who did it ? Maybe Westerhagen ?