Feldgrau Forum Photo Riddle ?

[Njorl]

Indeed, it's what used to be Rheinmetall-Borsig MK 108 cannon.

And if you reread posts regarding this riddle carefuly you'll probably learn on what plane it was installed.

[phylo_roadking]

OK, BF109G or later - cos theres a comment about ONE part so I'm assuming its in a singleton fitting - like maybe engine-timed....hence the spocket and gear flange round the stub barrel....?

[Njorl]

Nothing to add from me, except of almost ritual 'over to you, phylo'.

It appears it was Messerschmitt Bf 109 G or K, which had engine-mounted MK-108 cannon that fired through propeller's shaft.

Pictures come from this site http://www.odkrywca.pl/pokaz_watek.php?id=318747 - it's a thread of a forum for amateur historical excavations. Some other things were found, like piece of Revi sight, smashed pistons and engine valves, supercharger's rotor and some cockpit equipment.

Reards,

M

[phylo_roadking]

Ok.....what is THIS?

Yes, I KNOW there's an obvious answer, and thats about 20% of the real answer LOL but what IS it, what was it for?

[Paulus II]

Hi Phylo,

According to this site:
http://www.vectorsite.net/avhurr.html
It must be this:
One of the more interesting was the "biplane" Hurricane, which featured a jettisonable top wing with integral fuel tanks to reduce take-off distance with heavy loads, and to improve ferry range. The wing required the relocation of the radio mast to the belly of the aircraft. The modification was implemented by F. Hills & Sons and was designated the "Hillson FH.40". It proved too heavy to be serviceable.
And nobody did any calculations concernng it's weight before the prototype was built ??

Cheers,

Paul

[Dragunov]

re for last puzzle,

the mk108 was what i thought was the bottom of an engine. i should have known better, the mk108 was one of the things that i research....

[phylo_roadking]

Yes indeed, its the "Slip-Wing Hurricane", but the Internet bugbear strikes again! Wasn't for ferry range, or extra tankage! Hillson's DID do the conversion....but it wasn't known as the FH 40 that was a completely different and VERY funky-looking lightweight fighter prototype.....

The purpose of the Slip-Wing Hurricane was VERY simple - it was for extra lift ONLY, so that the Hurricane became an instant STOL aircraft for short lengths of roadway, tiny fields etc. .....in time of invasion LOL It was built and flown once in late Summer, 1940...the idea being that once airborne in a few dozen yards, "slip" the wing" and fly normally. Very useful of your last airfields are destroyed or overrun.

By the time the conversion was completed and ready for testing, the requirement - like those for emergency fighters etc. - was over, and the Hurricane in THIS mode only made one short hop to prove the theory, and the wing was never jettisoned The real FH40 went through quite a life of testing for the next couple of years.

[phylo_roadking]

This is the other Hillson slip-wing design....!



Funky or wot??? Imagine a flight of THESE descending on massed waves of He111s and Ju88s in the last days of the Battle Of Britain. The kill-rate would be frightening as pilots loose control of their aircraft pissing themselves laughing!

[Waleed Y. Majeed]

good one Philo.

A frightening sight indeed

A question which has been in my mind since the first Hawker you posted.
What does the in-circled P stand for? Prototype?
Can't be that simple, or...


waleed

[Paulus II]

You gotta love the Hillson
You gotta love the internet

Guys, the next riddle is up for grabs since I'm somewhat out of order because of a hefty little flue. Feel so lousy I can't think straight (or crooked).
So anyone....please go ahead and post the next riddle!!

Cheers,

Paul

[phylo_roadking]

Actually, Waleed, yes it CAN be that simple! And the only other difference was most P-marked airframes had bright yellow underservices, same yellow as trainers.

[Waleed Y. Majeed]

P-secrets... hehehe. Thanks Philo

I'll post a tricky-quicky in Pauls place - a great picture in my opinion.

Look closely and identify




waleed

[phylo_roadking]

You mean the Heinkel He111Z ? :-)

[Waleed Y. Majeed]

I guess its back to you. Still a great picture.
At first I thought it was two... then 5 engines

Found it here: http://www.unrealaircraft.com/index.php
A few that might interest you, like the Spitfire (Look under hybrid)
Love the "flying Jeep" too (Roadable wings)
Enjoy


waleed

[phylo_roadking]

Ok, my own personal fave oddity! I can never look at this pic without thinking of Thunderbirds, or maybe even SHADO.....just scope that front fuselage and the cockpit blister!



Now - this plane was the work of a TEAM of designers....but many books, websites etc. INCLUDING the one I sourced this from name only the team leader and fail to credit the OTHER main designer in the team, who designed the fuselage. WHO?