Hello Sir, I was away for a few days I could not give your post the attention it undoubtedly deserves. Apologies. Here it goes; enjoy!
BullsEye wrote:I'm afraid that your timeline is a bit skewed. Before Beck made his unfortunate remarks in March, 1939 Hitler had not made any bellicose public pronouncements against Poland
bullseye. Mr Chancellor Hitler made it clear in almost every speech he delivered, be it either to his sidekicks or to the faithful Nuremberg crowd, that he considers the Versailles outcome a shame and a disgrace, to be reverted as soon as possible. Which country do you think these references were pointing to? Do you think Lebensraum was about Kazakhstan, Kirgistan and Uzbekistan?
BullsEye wrote:Until then the only issues were the extra-territorial railroad and autobahn across the Polish Corridor and the return of Danzig, period.
bullseye. The question of German minority in Poland and the German property in Poland has been a key issue in mutual realtions long before Mr Chancellor Hitler thought he might fancy his beloved autobahn. And I like the word “only” for the autobahn and Danzig claims.
BullsEye wrote:I'm sure that if Beck had been more astute Hitler would have abandoned the extra-territorial connections with East Prussia and settled for Danzig.
I’m sure you’d better not be that sure. There were some guys who tried to run an “astute” policy; this is known as an “appeasement”. Before bullseying, suggest you make yourself familiar with what this police has led to.
BullsEye wrote:Your answer is difficult to understand in view of the fact that it was the policy adopted by the steemed FM of the Polish state that resulted in the death of millions. IMO, if the Poles had allied themselves with Germany it would have placed France and England in a position of allying with Soviet Russia. What would happene afterwards would make a neat "what if?" scenario.
Good, so your pick is named “Germany”. Here is the outcome: Germany retakes all territories lost in 1919 and conscripts all males, of which 0.3m die in the USSR later on; Poland is made to invade the USSR with a quarter of its GDP serving the Nazi war machine; 0.6m Polish soldiers die in Russia; 0.5m Poles are dead when the Soviet army rolls across Poland on their way to Berlin and the country is plundered even more than it actually was in 1944-1945; 1m Poles from the East are resettled to Siberia and Kazakhstan, a significant share of them dies; after WWII, Poland is reduced to a buffer state. And, of course, all the independent and daring thinkers would feel free to brand the Poles a criminal bunch, which decided to rock the world for the sake of pursuing their imperialist ambitions to rule over the Lithuanians, Belorussians, Ukrainians and Russians. Now easier to understand?
BullsEye wrote:[Yes, I can see that. I'll try using a crayon next time.
Try the capitals, bullseying looks more bullseyish then.
BullsEye wrote:The Czech army was quite modern and their fortifications were of high quality. You know about the Czech tanks, the PT-35 and 38 models were as good as the German panzers. While I would not consider these forces, combined with those of Poland and Lithuania, as war winning they would have made Hitler think twice before launching any attacks on Czechoslovakia.
Bullseye. I have told you already nothing would have made the Czechs get trapped in an alliance with Poland, regardless of how good their tanks and fortifications were. By the same token, one could claim that in order to prevent Anschluss, the Austrians should have formed a military alliance Czechoslovakia.
BullsEye wrote:Again, your timeline is skewed. Before Poland grabbed Teschen during the Munich crisis there were many opportunities for an alliance with Czechoslovaki, Romania and Yugoslavia. Don't forget that the Czechs, Slovaks, and many of the Yugoslavs are Slavs, or as you would call them, brother untermensch.
Again, you are bullseying here, Sir. I have asked you for listing these “opportunities” and you failed to deliver a single one.
BullsEye wrote:A non-answer.
which answers all the questions
BullsEye wrote:????????? Try again.
Is there a point trying?
BullsEye wrote:Again, tell me. What was so rational or realistic about Beck's policy? Poland ended up being re-partitioned a fourth time and lost it's independence for 50 years! Along with millions of lives!!
It seemed pretty rational and realistic to rely on a military alliance with two global superpowers. And definitely not less realistic than to give away a half of your country to one of your neighbours and than attack another.
BullsEye wrote:Can't you get that through that thick, Neanderthal skull? Well, apparently not.
So, this is what your independent and daring thinking leads to? Look out, someone might be tempted to confuse your approach with being racist and pro-Nazi. And I am afraid you are loosing your temper, Sir. Have a sit, get a coffee, breath normally. If all this fails, call a doctor. Bullseying is curable, I think.
BullsEye wrote:Forget it. I give up.
Prefer to be counted as POW or MIA?
BullsEye wrote:Yeah, Gydnia. Small mistake.
Bullseying at its best. First, you can not distinguish between cities which are pivotal for understanding the German-Polish relationships. Second, you independently and daringly embark on lecturing the others on the topic. Third, when proven wrong you pretend nothing had happened. Fourth, you are still unable to get the name right. Have a try, maybe the third time it will finally work!
BullsEye wrote:Get the timeline straight!! BTW, before April, 1939 when did Hitler ever make any public statements as to his designs on Poland other than those already mentioned?
As above. By the way, what was the point of all that NATO? Has the USSR ever raised any territorial claims against any NATO member? In public, almost everyone is as peace-loving and moderate as Kim Dzong Il. Wars break out because the narrow-minded stubborn fools refuse to concede this one, small thing.
BullsEye wrote:An evasive answer. Good material for our politicians in the US though.
For independent, daring and bullseying thinkers as well.
BullsEye wrote:It did in 1939 - 45.
So this is what “eventually” means in English… something which happened 65 years ago and lasted for less than 6 years.