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ljadw
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Re: kursk

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to make tanks,more was needed than steel .
Btw :I hope that you don't think that with more tanks,the Germans could win Kursk 8)
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Re: kursk

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ljadw wrote:operational tank strenght on 4 july for AGS
LSSAH
PzII 4
PzIII(long) 11
PzIV(long) 79
PzVI 12
BefPz 9
SG 34
Das Reich
PzIII(short) 1
PzIII(long) 47
PzIV (long) 30
PZVI 12
T 34 18
BefPz 8
SG 33
Totenkopf
Pz III(long)59
PzIV (short)5
PzIV(long)42
PzVI 11
BefPz VIII
SG 28
3PD
PzIII(short) 3
PzIII(long)27
PzIV (short) 17
PzIV(long)21
SG 2
11PD
PzIII(short)8
PzIII(long)42
PzIV(long)22
BefPz 8
SG 22
GD
PzIII(short)2
PzIII(long) 20
PzIV(short)7
PzIV(long)55
PzVI 14
BefPz 14
SG 34
51PzAbt 104 PzV
52 PzAbt 100 Pz V
911 SGAbt SG 31
905 SGAbt SG 25
393 SG Abt SG 25
6 PD (estimation!) :124 Pz - SG?
11PD(est) 1O3 PZ-SG ?
19 PD (est) 82 Pz -SG?
503 PzAbt 48 Pz VI
228SG Abt 25 SG
Sources:Angel Fire :Strength and losses .
Hi, ljadw, what is Angel fire, book or website ?
ljadw
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Re: kursk

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A website
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Re: kursk

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ljadw, the operational figures of 51. and 52. Panzer Abteilung a little bit too high. From Thomas Jentz book, that day figures for Panther were 184.
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Re: kursk

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Gentlemen,

I am looking for a specific day, when the Soviet troops formed a small bridgehead on the western side of River Donetz, north of Izyum during the Kursk battle. It was prior to the larger Soviet offensive (3 August).

It must be in a day in late July or 1 August, no later.

Thank you for any hints, help.
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There were 8 and 1 guard armies and the first bridgehead established at once July 17. The river crossing were between Sinicheno-Majaki.
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