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What was the biggest engagement the German Marines took part in.
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Germany had no "Marines" as such. They had Naval Landing Troops which, if I recall, formed part of Lettow-Vorbeck's force in Africa during WW I. There were scratch units made up of Naval personnel without ships toward the end of WW II whose most notable action was Market-Garden. Is this what you mean?
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The StandartenFuhrer,
What was the biggest engagement the German Marines took part in?
Whilst I do not know if Market Garden was the "biggest engagement the German Marines took part in", derGespenst is correct is saying it was most notable as there were over 2000 "Marines" fighting in and around Arnhem. They fought as cohesive units supplimented with Heer or SS NCOs attached for leadership and direction (naval personnel not so well trained in street fighting). They were also thrown into Kampfgruppes already fighting in situ.
Units in Arnhem with "German Marines"
Schiffsturmabetilung 10
6./Schiffsturmabetilung 14
SS-Pz.Gr.AuE.Btl.16 (500 Naval personnel attached 21st Sept 44)
642 Marine Regt
1st Marine Cadre Regt
It is believed that Naval Personnel were attached to the 9th SS-Pz Div as well....but at work, so do not have references...but I remember it so.
I hope you find this helpful.....
What was the biggest engagement the German Marines took part in?
derGespenst wrote:
"There were scratch units made up of Naval personnel without ships toward the end of WW II whose most notable action was Market-Garden. Is this what you mean?"
Whilst I do not know if Market Garden was the "biggest engagement the German Marines took part in", derGespenst is correct is saying it was most notable as there were over 2000 "Marines" fighting in and around Arnhem. They fought as cohesive units supplimented with Heer or SS NCOs attached for leadership and direction (naval personnel not so well trained in street fighting). They were also thrown into Kampfgruppes already fighting in situ.
Units in Arnhem with "German Marines"
Schiffsturmabetilung 10
6./Schiffsturmabetilung 14
SS-Pz.Gr.AuE.Btl.16 (500 Naval personnel attached 21st Sept 44)
642 Marine Regt
1st Marine Cadre Regt
It is believed that Naval Personnel were attached to the 9th SS-Pz Div as well....but at work, so do not have references...but I remember it so.
I hope you find this helpful.....
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Were these sailors or Marine Infantrie? The difference been uniforms, sailors wore naval (kriegsmarine) uniforms, even if they served at a shore installations, Marine Infantrie wore Wehrmacht uniforms with Kriegsmarine insignia. It's a small difference, but important to a project I am working on.Revellations wrote:The StandartenFuhrer,
What was the biggest engagement the German Marines took part in?
derGespenst wrote:
"There were scratch units made up of Naval personnel without ships toward the end of WW II whose most notable action was Market-Garden. Is this what you mean?"
Whilst I do not know if Market Garden was the "biggest engagement the German Marines took part in", derGespenst is correct is saying it was most notable as there were over 2000 "Marines" fighting in and around Arnhem. They fought as cohesive units supplimented with Heer or SS NCOs attached for leadership and direction (naval personnel not so well trained in street fighting). They were also thrown into Kampfgruppes already fighting in situ.
Units in Arnhem with "German Marines"
Schiffsturmabetilung 10
6./Schiffsturmabetilung 14
SS-Pz.Gr.AuE.Btl.16 (500 Naval personnel attached 21st Sept 44)
642 Marine Regt
1st Marine Cadre Regt
It is believed that Naval Personnel were attached to the 9th SS-Pz Div as well....but at work, so do not have references...but I remember it so.
I hope you find this helpful.....
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Hi Guys,
My suspicion is that the Germans tended to use men from marine artillery units as landing troops, at least early in the war. At Memel on 23 March 1939 they used elements of III Marineartillerieabteilung as landing parties to occupy the port. The same unit provided the reinforced company that attempted to storm Westerplatte at the entrance to Danzig harbour on the first day of the war.
Cheers,
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My suspicion is that the Germans tended to use men from marine artillery units as landing troops, at least early in the war. At Memel on 23 March 1939 they used elements of III Marineartillerieabteilung as landing parties to occupy the port. The same unit provided the reinforced company that attempted to storm Westerplatte at the entrance to Danzig harbour on the first day of the war.
Cheers,
Sid.
John Russell's book 'No Truimphant Procession-The Forgotten Battles of April 1945' focuses on the battles fought by the 2nd Marine Infantry Division along the Aller river south east of Bremen, and then as it was pushed north towards Hamburg.
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http://www.axishistory.com/index.php?id=2262
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http://www.axishistory.com/index.php?id=2262
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You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.
And so as I patrol in the valley of the shadow of the tricolour I must fear evil, For I am but mortal and mortals can only die
And so as I patrol in the valley of the shadow of the tricolour I must fear evil, For I am but mortal and mortals can only die