Cammo pattern in U Boats 1939.

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Cammo pattern in U Boats 1939.

Post by tigre » Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:18 pm

Hello to all :D; a little query................

Camouflage patterns of German submersible in 1939.

My question is whether there was a intended pattern design or if it was a more or less kaleun's free election? In 1939 U 25 and U 40 carried camouflage during their patrols for example, but in early 1939 U 33 had a distinctive camouflage scheme while visiting the port of Bremen 4-6 February 1939. Any purpose on it? Experiment, show? In the photos we see the U-Flotille Saltzwedel during the visit, in which contrasts visibly the U-33.

Source: http://www.deutsches-marine-und-uboot-f ... stID=37326
http://marcel.gajac.pagesperso-orange.fr/u27.htm
Bremen zwischen 1933 und 1945: Eine Chronik Written by Fritz Peters

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U-Flotille Saltzwedel in Bremen 4 to 6 February 1939 ...............................
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The U Tender "Saar" and tied in row the Flotille's submersibles. U- 25 first (Type IA) and the other type VIIA (at the end the distinctive U-33) .............................
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Re: Cammo pattern in U Boats 1939.

Post by tigre » Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:17 pm

Hello to all :D; a couple of pictures................

Camouflage patterns of German submersible in 1939.

Source: in the pictures.

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Supposedly the U 33 with special paint scheme of camouflaging (although the painting does not fit with the sail in the photo in Bremen) .................
http://www.geocities.ws/nicokrupka/u30_2.html
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Several u boats type VIIA of Flotilla Saltzwedel moored in Kiel (at least two have some sort of camouflage)................
s-l1600Port. Photo RARE Kriegsmarine U-Boats (U-Flotille 2.) Tied Up in Harbor; KIEL! eBay Auction.
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Re: Cammo pattern in U Boats 1939.

Post by tigre » Sat Dec 26, 2015 11:19 am

Hello to all :D; a couple of pictures................

Camouflage patterns of German U boats in 1939.

One of the two submarines that carried camouflaging schemes during her operational patrols in 1939, U 40 (Type IXA) wear it on the conning tower only. The question is: when she got the cammo painting? before sailing in August 1939 or after the first patrol? .................

The KTB U-Bootwaffe. 1939. Das Kriegstagebuch der U-Bootwaffe von Roland Berr, stated for September 18, 1939: the U 40 came back after her first war patrol to Wilhelmshaven. The boat was 31 days at sea. U 40 will be overhauled in Wilhelmshaven.

Source: http://ww2news.com/wp-content/uploads/1 ... -10-39.jpg.

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Here the U 40 which would be sunk early in the war when she hit a mine in the English Channel (October 1939)..........
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Re: Cammo pattern in U Boats 1939.

Post by tigre » Tue Dec 29, 2015 6:21 am

Hello to all :D; a little more................

Camouflage patterns of German U boats in 1939.

While wandering on the net I found this other photo of the U 33 with cammo scheme. The author states that this scheme was testing in Spain but it was not effective. Now the only question to me is that the author puts the picture in Bremerhaven in 1937 and I've found two visits carried out by Flotilla Saltzwedel, one to Hamburg in December 1937 and the one registered in the Golden Book of Bremen in February 1939. The latter is close to the U-Bootwaffe's vast maneuver on May 1939 west of the Bay of Biscay and off the coast of the Iberian Peninsula. There took part 15 U boats (Type VIIA and IXA), a tanker, a cargo ship, a tender ship and command and control ship. I still biting the date of the visit ..................................

Source: The Gathering Storm: The Naval War in Northern Europe September 1939 - April 1940. Written by H. Geirr Haarr
4. Februar 1939 U-Flottille "Saltzwedel". Einträge in das Goldene Buch der Stadt Bremen seit 1926 bis zum 04/01/2014
http://www.deutsches-u-boot-museum.com/ ... eil_i.html

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The Tender ship Saar, the U 25 (Type IA) and the Type VIIA U 27, U 28, U 29, U 30 and U 33 (camouflaged) in Bremerhaven .........................
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Re: Cammo pattern in U Boats 1939.

Post by tigre » Fri Jan 08, 2016 5:27 am

Hello to all :D; a little more................

Camouflage patterns of German U boats in 1939.

Here I found a photo of another who had camouflage paint during her patrols, but this also included the hull............................. .....

Source: U-Boot im Focus 5/2009.

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The U 25 in late 1939 or early 1940, with camouflage paint and still without the familiar emblem on the conning tower.................................................
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Re: Cammo pattern in U Boats 1939.

Post by tigre » Sat Mar 26, 2016 8:00 am

Hello to all :D; a little more................

Camouflage patterns of German U boats in 1939.

Here I found another picture of whole U-Flotilla Saltzwedel (in Kiel?); not exactly masking pattern but ..................................

Source: http://www.ebay.de/itm/U-Boot-im-Hafen- ... true&rt=nc..

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German U boats in port; in a second row we see (among others) U 32, U 27, U 28 and U 29 (with her conning tower in light color; any reason, camouflage in the surface?) ...............................................
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Re: Cammo pattern in U Boats 1939.

Post by tigre » Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:15 pm

Hello to all :D; after a while a little more.................

Camouflage patterns of German U Boats in 1939.

AFAIK until now, in the summer of 1939 (before the war) the U Bootwaffe experimented with several camouflage schemes, although apparently without positive results ...................

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Here U 24 a Type II B in Wilhelmshaven wearing an experimental scheme of camouflage and as her emblem in the conning tower an arched black cat and above a four leaf clover - summer of 1939 ..............................................

Source: http://www.themodellingnews.com/2015/02 ... lable.html.

I think that at the beginning of the war, she did not wear the cammo pattern anymore, but what about the emblems? TIA.Cheers. Raul M 8).
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