Coming back to the original theme, gentlemen, is better to remeber that the German Government proposed, in Dec. 1916, a general peace agreement without annexations or indemnities. This "white peace" wa s labelled by the British as the great german Peace offensive and was refused by the Entente, except for Russia who said, in Jan. 1917, that this proposal could be discussed as a starting point to end the war. Western immediate pressures on the starving Russia and the corrupt Imperial court put an end at the accidend within days. One of the protagonist of the British underground policy at St. Petersgrad was Sir Samuel Hoare (nicknamed "The reptile" by his collegue and old enemy Churchill), In this same time was active for the same, political purpose, in the Russian capital a brilliant, young major ot the Italian Army Staff, Ugo Cavallero, future Marshal of the Regio Esercito.
Germany government (and the two siamese brothers Hindemburg and Ludendorff too) accepted the idea of a necessary armistice and peace (hoping according President Wilson 14 points) since Aug. 1918. The Allies, however, raised the price, asking always for worste condictions, in Sept. and Oct. 1918.
In Nov. 1918, after the Austrian-Hungary army collapse at Vittorio Veneto Germany (according Ludendorff memories) had no other choice than to accept an immediate armistice as the Wien government sudden surrender opened Southern Germany to an Italian and Allied invasion.
The subsequent German red revolution was only the last nail on the coffin.
As these are the bare facts the question is: a less obstinate and more honest, chivarly (and human) conduct by the British and French government towards the Reich without the 1918 and 1919 famine blackmails (in spite of the correct USA pleas sea traffic of food and medical helps - except for some private, and not sufficient humanitarian private helps, mainy Quackers throught Scandinavia - for the Geran people was still forbidden by the Royal Navy after 11 Nov. 1918 until the final Germany signature of the Versailles Treaty in March 1919) would have let the Germans generals and politicians (Nazi too, like Frick, for example, or even Goering) to get peace in spite of Hitler during the fatal 1943 Summer?
As a matter of fact Nazi resolution was based not only upon the Soviet Union menace but on the terrible records of 1918 and 1919 western bad will too.
A puzzled Enrico
P.S. Let me remember too that the quite different and wiser Italian policy of necessary modest but immediate food relief for Austria and Hungary since Nov. and Dec. 1918 let these two countries to estabilish quite better relations with Rome until the 1938 Anschluss and the 8 Sept. 1943 armistice. My grandfather arrived in Wien yet before the end on Nov. 1918 with an humanitarian Catholic mission assisted by the Regio Esercito men and materials and his description of the local great misery, the hard winter cold and the sudden Christian sentiment of new humanity between the bitter, old enemies in name of a common, future hope of peace and loyalty was a touching one. EC