Tank Strength Stalingrad september 1942

[Dima]

Hello,

anyone has information about 6A tank strength right before assault of Stalingrad 13.09.42?

Thnx in advance,Dima.

[jmark]

Here are the tank strengths for 13 September 1942:

3. Infanterie-Division (mot.):
7 Panzer II
20 Panzer III long-barrel
1 Panzer IV long-barrel
1 Panzer IV short-barrel

29. Infanterie-Division (mot.):
2 Panzer II
5 Panzer III long-barrel
2 Panzer IV long-barrel

60. Infanterie-Division (mot.):
6 Panzer II
20 Panzer III long-barrel
8 Panzer IV long-barrel
3 Panzer IV short-barrel

14. Panzer-Division:
3 Panzer II
12 Panzer III long-barrel
2 Panzer III short-barrel
3 Panzer IV long-barrel
1 Panzer IV short-barrel
4 Panzerbefehlswagen (command panzers)

16. Panzer-Division:
47 Panzer III long-barrel
8 Panzer III short-barrel
7 Panzer IV long-barrel
2 Panzer IV short-barrel

24. Panzer-Division:
7 Panzer II
6 Panzer III long-barrel
5 Panzer III short-barrel
3 Panzer IV long-barrel
1 Panzer IV short-barrel
1 Panzerbefehlswagen

Therefore, if you add them all up, the totals are as follows:
Tank strength of on 13 September 1942*:
25 Panzer II
110 Panzer III long-barrel
15 Panzer III short-barrel
24 Panzer IV long-barrel
8 Panzer IV short-barrel
5 Panzerbefehlswagen

Total panzers = 187

*Note that on 13 September, 29.Inf.Div.(mot.) and 14.Pz.Div. were still part of Hoth's 4. Panzerarmee, but I have included them here because they participated in the assault on Stalingrad.

Hope this helps.
Jason Mark

[mk2]

Very good. I think they are tanks ready for combat. (Sorry for my english).

Not exactly on topic, but could you provide same data for 16th ID(mot) and for the divisions of H.Gr. A in Caucasus?

Regards.

[jmark]

Sorry, I don't have any figures for 16.Inf.Div.(mot.) or Heeresgruppe A. Not my area of expertise, I'm afraid!

Jason

[Dima]

Thanks a lot,Jason!

Really great information!

Do u have information about amount/types of guns and menstrength of 71,76,94,295,389 IDs,100 JD,29 MD,14,24 PDs on 13.09.42?

Will be most grateful,Dima.

[Russ Schulke]

The 14th Panzer Division did not participated in the assault in southern Stalingrad on the September 13, but some of its artillery elements supported the 29th motorized Infantry and 94th Infantry Divisions.

Russ
http://www.fireonthevolga.com

[Dima]

The 14th Panzer Division did not participated in the assault in southern Stalingrad on the September 13, but some of its artillery elements supported the 29th motorized Infantry and 94th Infantry Divisions.

Russ
http://www.fireonthevolga.com

Hmm, on maps that i have it was there(both russian and german maps) and attacked with 94ID toward Jelshanka-Minina. On 28.09.42 was moved to area of 2ID(r).

[jmark]

The 14th Panzer Division did not participated in the assault in southern Stalingrad on the September 13, but some of its artillery elements supported the 29th motorized Infantry and 94th Infantry Divisions.

Thanks for the input Russ.

I know that 14. Panzer-Division didn't actually participate in the attack by hurling itself against Soviet lines, but it was there in southern Stalingrad, holding defensive positions so that other divisions could attack. 14. Panzer-Division repelled strong Soviet infantry attacks before dawn and at 1700 hours on 13 September. The last-mentioned Soviet attack wasn't finally repulsed until 1900 hours. 14.PD also advanced its line to maintain a solid connection to 29.Inf.Div.(mot) and at 1120 hours, attacked a hill south-east of Pestshanka with Krad.Btl.64 and panzers after the hill was occupied by Soviet forces following an unauthorised Rumanian withdrawal. So, as you can see, it did play a role in the assault on 13 September 1942.

If you want to split hairs, 3.Inf.Div., 60.Inf.Div. and 16.Pz.Div. also did not participate in the attack on 13 September, but only providing figures for 2 of the 6 panzer-equipped divisions that actually attacked on 13 September wouldn't have been very helpful.

Do u have information about amount/types of guns and menstrength of 71,76,94,295,389 IDs,100 JD,29 MD,14,24 PDs on 13.09.42?

Russ, do you want to answer this one, or shall I?

Jason

[Russ Schulke]

I 99.9% sure that the maps you are referencing shows the German 76th Infantry Division Assaulting Stalingrad between the 295th and 71st Infantry Division during this same period which is also incorrect. These errors keep being printed over and over again. Beevor, Hoyt, Piekalkiewicz and a dozen more authors keep basing their books on Chuikov’s maps in “The Battle for Stalingrad” which are incorrect.

In 2003 I Interview Suren Mirzoyan, veteran of the Stalingrad battle and post-war friend of General Chuikov and asked him about errors in the Generals book, he stated that there were errors in the book but it was over-all sound.

In Chuikov’s book “The Battle for Stalingrad” he repeatedly leads the reader into believing that the 62nd army was being attacked time after time by more than 600+ German tanks, which in fact there was 150 to 175 tanks spread out between 3 Panzer Divisions, 1 motorized Division and 3 Assault-gun Battalions for the assault on the city during this time.

By looking at your list of unit’s you are asking about and the September 13 date, you must be interested in the elements that physically attacked into Stalingrad during this time. If this correct, then 100 Jäger Infantry Division was not on the Stalingrad frontline during this time either.

From September 11 to the 28 the greater part of the 14th Panzer was in a defensive position south of Kuporosnoye and north of Beketowka. Its positioned was south of the 29th motorized Infantry Division and north of the 20th Rumania Infantry Division. During the weeks before this date, the amour units of the 14th and 24th Panzer were combined into one Battle-group and the last operation together in this phase of the battle was on September 12.

Sorry but I cannot help more but I am flying out tomorrow morning to the SOS International Military show in Lousiville. I will be back after the first of the month.

Russ
http://www.fireonthevolga.com

[Dima]

But 100JD did attack city later in september,didn't it?

[Russ Schulke]

On the night of September 25, elements of the 100 Jäger Division started to relieve units of the 24 Panzer Division dug-in on Mamayev Kurgan. This shifting of forces went without any difficulty and was completed before daylight.

Russ
http://www.fireonthevolga.com